Do we have a spirit and, if so, what role does it play in our relationship with God?

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I never hear the individual spirit of a person being discussed in Church, only the collective versions of Spirit. Could we get to know our individual spirit as a means of better connecting with God? I see signs of something reentering my body when about to wake up from nighttime dreams. It seems like my spirit trying to align with my physical self. Is it a personal Angel? Or just a personification of a deeper aspect of my regular self? Merely psychological? Or a metaphysical reality?
 
otherbrother said:
I never hear the individual spirit of a person being discussed in Church, only the collective versions of Spirit. Could we get to know our individual spirit as a means of better connecting with God? I see signs of something reentering my body when about to wake up from nighttime dreams. It seems like my spirit trying to align with my physical self. Is it a personal Angel? Or just a personification of a deeper aspect of my regular self? Merely psychological? Or a metaphysical reality?
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Hi, the way I understand it is that our spirit is the life we were given by God......God "formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life(spirit); and man became a living soul" When we die the spirit go from where it came, God."(Ecclesiastes 12:7)
When we are newly created by God after we become His children through Salvation, we receive the Gift of the Holy Spirit who gives us eternal life...... without the Holy Spirit we cannot enter the kingdom of God. (John 3)
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I see signs of something reentering my body
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What signs? :oops:

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I had an astral projection experience at a roadside park where I meditated and occasionally took a nap each weekday on way to work. As I was in waking up mode from nap I saw myself from front of car, look back at me. Then I experienced the “knitting” sensation as that ostensibly “part” of me reentered my body via my right side between hips and chest.
In dreams I reenter rooms and other enclosures, sometimes squeezing through narrow windows or other openings just before waking up. Occasionally it is experienced as a character sneaking up on me as though to penetrate. Other dream content suggests a reluctance to return. Flying content with or without smooth landings happens occasionally. Other dreams have me energetically levitating and even occasionally able to levitate whole groups in my dream. The other night I smoothly transitioned on a gentle waterfall to a lower area right as I was waking. Variations of rising, descending, and entering are frequent. These experiences coupled with my semi-waking astral projection experience lead me to believe that our spirits leave our body to take a little vacation to a more connective dimension while we are sleeping/dreaming and then return before waking. Several times my “spirit “ is looking for a key or lock combination to enter through the door or gate. Sometimes with help from a mentor. Other apparently spiritually instructive themes happen in-between the going up/out and coming back/down. I call my dreams “night school.”
I had my second solidly lucid dream several nights ago in which I was able toe reach through dream objects. Very interesting sensation similar to the knitting sensation of my astral projection experience. Seems lucid dreaming and semi-awareness of spirit movement may be closely related, but I have only had two clearly lucid dreams and MANY suggestive of astral projection while sleeping/dreaming.
 
My very limited educated guess is that soul is rooted on this physical “side” while an individual (or individual’s) spirit is rooted on the “ other side.” Spirit can move about , sometimes leaving the body. Soul is a dock that doesn’t leave the body. A high aura is probably a precursor to astral projection. Loving someone is also similar to astral projection as one feels his or her heart (subtle energy) go out to someone else.
 
otherbrother said:
I had an astral projection experience at a roadside park where I meditated and occasionally took a nap each weekday on way to work. As I was in waking up mode from nap I saw myself from front of car, look back at me. Then I experienced the “knitting” sensation as that ostensibly “part” of me reentered my body via my right side between hips and chest.
In dreams I reenter rooms and other enclosures, sometimes squeezing through narrow windows or other openings just before waking up. Occasionally it is experienced as a character sneaking up on me as though to penetrate. Other dream content suggests a reluctance to return. Flying content with or without smooth landings happens occasionally. Other dreams have me energetically levitating and even occasionally able to levitate whole groups in my dream. The other night I smoothly transitioned on a gentle waterfall to a lower area right as I was waking. Variations of rising, descending, and entering are frequent. These experiences coupled with my semi-waking astral projection experience lead me to believe that our spirits leave our body to take a little vacation to a more connective dimension while we are sleeping/dreaming and then return before waking. Several times my “spirit “ is looking for a key or lock combination to enter through the door or gate. Sometimes with help from a mentor. Other apparently spiritually instructive themes happen in-between the going up/out and coming back/down. I call my dreams “night school.”
I had my second solidly lucid dream several nights ago in which I was able toe reach through dream objects. Very interesting sensation similar to the knitting sensation of my astral projection experience. Seems lucid dreaming and semi-awareness of spirit movement may be closely related, but I have only had two clearly lucid dreams and MANY suggestive of astral projection while sleeping/dreaming.
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Interesting.......is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior, do you except the Word as the Truth? 🤔 Is this what your Church teach......

Tx
 
otherbrother said:
I never hear the individual spirit of a person being discussed in Church, only the collective versions of Spirit. Could we get to know our individual spirit as a means of better connecting with God? I see signs of something reentering my body when about to wake up from nighttime dreams. It seems like my spirit trying to align with my physical self. Is it a personal Angel? Or just a personification of a deeper aspect of my regular self? Merely psychological? Or a metaphysical reality?
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There is a lot on this topic in the Baha'i Writings, if you are interested I am happy to share more. I offer the following.

The question asked in your post, "Could we get to know our individual spirit as a means of better connecting with God"? is to me the fundamental purpose of our existence, as knowing one's own true self, is our given task.

This link

Commentary on "He who knoweth his self hath known his Lord."​

This is a "Commentary on `He who hath known his self hath known his Lord'" (from Julian Cole website) which was written by Bahá'u'lláh in Edirne, and was addressed to Mirza Hadi Qazvini. It treats briefly a number of key questions in Islamic mysticism, including the meaning of detachment; the meaning of the Saying about knowing one's self; the meaning of Return; and the meaning of another Saying, "The believer is alive in both worlds."

There is so much on the topic of our soul, that there is many things we can share.

Dreaming is one of the bounties given of God to show us we are more than flesh, it is in fact another world of God, that is wrapped up in this world! Flying dreams are a great spiritual bounty.

Worlds of God

All the best and Regards Tony.
 
Yahweh kid said:
Interesting.......is Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior, do you except the Word as the Truth? 🤔 Is this what your Church teach......

Tx
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Yes. Christ models the optimal spiritual I hope for but will probably never fully attain. He’s my divine human inspiring me to be more like him.
 
Tony Bristow-Stagg said:
There is a lot on this topic in the Baha'i Writings, if you are interested I am happy to share more. I offer the following.

The question asked in your post, "Could we get to know our individual spirit as a means of better connecting with God"? is to me the fundamental purpose of our existence, as knowing one's own true self, is our given task.

This link

Commentary on "He who knoweth his self hath known his Lord."​

This is a "Commentary on `He who hath known his self hath known his Lord'" (from Julian Cole website) which was written by Bahá'u'lláh in Edirne, and was addressed to Mirza Hadi Qazvini. It treats briefly a number of key questions in Islamic mysticism, including the meaning of detachment; the meaning of the Saying about knowing one's self; the meaning of Return; and the meaning of another Saying, "The believer is alive in both worlds."

There is so much on the topic of our soul, that there is many things we can share.

Dreaming is one of the bounties given of God to show us we are more than flesh, it is in fact another world of God, that is wrapped up in this world! Flying dreams are a great spiritual bounty.

Worlds of God

All the best and Regards Tony.
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Read some. Liked. Will read and think about as soon as I have time. Thanks
 
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