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Cup, Please don't think I presume to have many answers. I made the comment about the junk DNA because that is what seems to make sense to me. It may well turn out that junk DNA is just that... junk.... ashes from past mutations. But again, maybe not. The idea of a plan is speculation on the...

Thanks Cup. this is getting better and better.

thanks Dan. that is very helpful

trying my test here ok Thomas, think I might have it. I really appreciate the help :)

This is a message to all. Reading back over my posts, I often use bold text. This is not my written way of shouting (I have been made aware some people use bold this way.... not what I intended). I have been using bold as a way of inserting my comments after someone else's previous quote in a...

Wil, I don't disagree with anything you said.... except maybe the supernatural part. I leave open the possibility that supernatural is simply the natural that we do not yet understand the physics of. As you said, there are so many things we don't understand. Proven reality has been a moving...

I don't quite know where you are coming from here. I don't really argue "future plans" if that is what you are getting at. The fact that an invention is designed with all the possible bells and whistles does not imply that there is a predestination requirement for their use. A car might be...

Thomas, I would like to respond to each of your points, but haven't been able to figure out how to use the parsed quotes feature. In a nutshell, my view of intelligent design has nothing to do with think tanks, etc.. I am not well read enough to even know what you are talking about when you...

Can't defend my premise other than to say I can't think of anything else in nature that has 90% if its entirety with no apparant purpose, ergo "junk". My gut tells me "junk" DNA is the unused bag of tricks that makes evolution possible. I agree this doesn't make it so... and no I cannot offer...

I agree with everything you say. As to the question of intelligent thread design vs survival of the fittest ....... Darwin may have a point here :D

Wow what a lively thread. But to be honest, as a latecomer, it has wandered all over the place. The thread title is "The atheists' dilemma" My take on all I have read regarding the thread title is: Belevers are those who believe there is a God Nonbelievers are atheists.... they believe there...

Hello everyone, I discovered the site a week or so ago and jumped into participating in the threads before realizing there was an introduction section. I was not trying to be impolite, I was just eager. I am a lot of questions seeking answers. I was raised Southern Baptist which I turned...

I agree if that is not obvious

Again, who knows the motives of the creator.... presuming the human idea of motives should even apply to a creator. The lack of divine intervention toward anyone's idea of a perfect world does not negate the evidence for intelligent design. Some pretty intelligent people design some pretty...

Gordion, Thanks for the link. very enlightening. Those who think intelligent design is pseudo science should read two books: The New Story of Science: Mind and the Universe by Augros and Stanciu The New Biology: Discovering the Wisdom of Nature by Augros and Stanciu These researchers use...

thanks I, Brian. I was afraid I had done something wrong.

This is a question that haunts me. Facts: my mother was born in 1921 - world population was 1.8 billion. earth population has quadrupled in her lifetime. I was born in 1947 - world population was 2.3 billion. the population has tripled in my lifetime. My oldest son was born in 1970 - world...

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Wil, I just typed a fairly lengthy response to you, but it went off into the ether .... moderator review .... An earlier post on the forum was treated the same and never made it through the moderator. I am new to the forum. What are the rules? There was absolutely nothing in my post that was...

Wil, thanks for the reply. I have professed a creationist belief since the time long ago when I was exposed to the Divine Watchmaker Analogy in a college philosophy class. I was shaken by Gordion Knot's statement that the main tenent of creationism is that God created all creatures...