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  1. bob x

    Etymology of the name Jesus

    Yes, please. I'd be interested to see the contexts in which it occurs. That sounds similar to Elam (the name of the kingdom east of Sumeria in pre-Persian Iran) and to the word for "country" in Tamil Eelam (what the "Tigers" were trying to create). Indeed, that is pre-Vedic (from the...
  2. bob x

    Etymology of the name Jesus

    Ah! So you were thinking of the Arabic name, not any Sanskrit. The Arabic is a distortion of, not the source of, the original name. The Arabic name Amin "honest; a truth-teller" and the Hebrew/Aramaic exclamation Amen "truly" (as well as the Old Egyptian name Amon "god of truth") are from...
  3. bob x

    Yahweh-yireh

    Of course they did. Aryavarta is attested from earlier than the Gathas. Of course they were. They were the "Indo" branch of the Indo-Iranians, at that time not very different from the "Iranian" branch, from whom they had only recently separated. You think wrongly. I SHOWED you what Bopp...
  4. bob x

    "holy scriptures"

    And how many people have a profound religious faith in their governments, at the moment?
  5. bob x

    Yahweh-yireh

    As I said, geographers other than Pomponius Mela use the term more broadly, but Pomponius was using it only for the area from the Indus valley northwest as far as the Afghan mountains, that is, most of Pakistan (occupied by a mix of Indic, Iranian, and Dardic speakers). Evidently Pomponius...
  6. bob x

    Etymology of the name Jesus

    What does the name mean? Where does it occur? What makes you certain?
  7. bob x

    Yahweh-yireh

    Pomponius is using the word narrowly (most other authors use it broadly to include Aria/Herat and beyond into Central Asia) for an area which is clearly in northern Pakistan and eastern Afghanistan, occupied by more Indic- than Iranian-speakers. Iran is in the opposite direction, further from...
  8. bob x

    Etymology of the name Jesus

    Turks didn't enter the Mideast until ~1000 AD, so this is way too late for the origin of Vulgar Latin cranum or its Old French derivative for the dairy product. The cosmetic "cold cream" of course is not dairy-based; but it appears that the two words, originally unrelated, did get confused with...
  9. bob x

    Great Schism of the West

    Well, a small slice of the story might have been more approachable than this big epic. But I started and stopped when I did because it includes so many variants of religious leadership. I began with the empty chair: the longest time the Roman church has ever gone with no Pope at all. Then...
  10. bob x

    Is there a true Church in this world today?

    The beauty of Latin, and other case-system languages, is that word order is quite free, and can be used for emphasis: Pax et amore omnia vincunt would emphasize that peace and love conquer everything, but his order Pax et amore vincunt omnia stresses that they conquer everything.
  11. bob x

    Yahweh-yireh

    Ariane in Greek was a geographic term of wide and vague boundaries, like Aryavarta in Sanskrit. The Greek authors distinguish a large list of different "peoples" in that region; one of them, in a small district of Afghanistan, was the Arii but that should have been Harii (Greek just uses an...
  12. bob x

    Etymology of the name Jesus

    I found this but it says cranum for "cream" was used in late Latin (maybe borrowed from Gaulish) before that Old French form with "s" thrown in to the spelling, thought to be influenced by the Greek word although the Greek word was not really the source. What I'm saying is that they knew very...
  13. bob x

    Yahweh-yireh

    And my point is that you are simply wrong. The Parthian script did not indicate vowels; since the Avestan form started "ai", the Sassanian form started "e", and the modern form starts "i", it is not actually very likely that the Parthian form started "a". Why did the vowels get filled in the...
  14. bob x

    Garden of Eden

    Which is a high bar, I'm sure... I'll take you up on that, but it won't be any time soon I'm afraid.
  15. bob x

    "holy scriptures"

    I'm sure not seeing what you're seeing. The religious cults that spring up nowadays tend to have outrageous messages. Who do you have in mind selling "saccharine" and getting many takers?
  16. bob x

    Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heaven?

    Re: Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heav Ah, thanks. The "simple" gematria just assigns 1-26 to the letters (not 1-9, 10-90, 100-900 as in the ancient systems; requires you to fill out the alphabet to 27 letters) while the "English" gematria just...
  17. bob x

    Etymology of the name Jesus

    I don't know what Old French word you are referring to: please clarify. The root didn't go from Avestan to Greek. It went from Proto-Indo-Germanic (at least; I can't say PIE without knowing if it occurs at all in Centum) meaning "any greasy substance" to Germanic meaning "lard, especially...
  18. bob x

    Great Schism of the West

    It's a long story, but entertaining: Astonishingly, their choice as “Clement VII” was Robert of Geneva, the Butcher of Cesena, the single most polarizing figure in the Church heirarchy. For a time his men held the Castel Sant Angelo (originally Hadrian's tomb, now a great Papal stronghold in...
  19. bob x

    Great Schism of the West

    The discussions of Baha'i schisms (which Brian wants to cease) drove me to re-read about this grand soap opera of the High Middle Ages, which might serve as a more neutral (no living persons involved) launching point for talking about the issues of what religious leadership is, or should be...
  20. bob x

    Mark of the Beast

    Actually, this was the standard interpretation among everybody, until the Reformation. This IS "the millenium", the rule of Christ's church over the world; that's what medievals thought. I give it an earlier date than some would. I think it is from the reign of Nero, that Rev. 18:18 (talking...
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