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  1. bob x

    Etymology of the name Jesus

    It's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturer of dairy products. sorry, couldn't help myself "Milk" is conspicuously absent from Judeo-Christian imagery. One only needs to compare the English word linen to the Russian name Lenin to see that there is indeed a...
  2. bob x

    Abdul-Baha's 1912 Authentic Covenant

    I've listened to you, and just not been very impressed-- particularly when you just echo again your arguments against the Haifa organization without even seeming to notice that I've been saying something different. I've read a bunch of your stuff, but you know, I'm not going to plow through...
  3. bob x

    Garden of Eden

    It's my little form of immortality, though I suppose Van Parunak's name will survive in the footnotes longer than they'll bother to mention me. No, it was an expression of hope that he might be the Moshiach (in the sense of a "political Messiah" who would expand Israel's borders), with no...
  4. bob x

    Abdul-Baha's 1912 Authentic Covenant

    Sure I do. You really just don't bother listening to what anybody says to you. This is why I distinguish between trying to block anybody else from using the name "Baha'i" (which I have always agreed with you is ridiculous, but you won't take Yes for an answer) and objecting to "This is the...
  5. bob x

    Abdul-Baha's 1912 Authentic Covenant

    Not particularly. I looked at chat-boards and anything that would come up on Google. *shrug* The UU church around the corner from where I used to live had a Baha'i meeting once a week. They're pretty hospitable about letting any spiritual-minded group use their buildings, which is all the...
  6. bob x

    Garden of Eden

    I was a very strange kid during my religious egomania. One important thing I did was type the Hebrew text of the Tanakh into a big ASCII file: professor Parunak was the lead on that project; I was just the typist and proof-reader, but since I had to make some changes to the coding scheme in...
  7. bob x

    Yahweh-yireh

    You're arguing about what you were supposedly taught in school, when it doesn't look like you paid any attention in school, so it is hard to tell what really was in your textbooks or whether it would make any difference if the content of the textbooks were changed. The philosophy WAS the...
  8. bob x

    Yahweh-yireh

    You do not recall being taught even the very basic outline of the World War Two story. I don't know what was in your specific textbooks, of course, but I don't know that adding more material would change the problem of students not absording the material anyway. Because nobody using...
  9. bob x

    Garden of Eden

    Which is not an insignificant point, of course. In Judges somewhere (too lazy to look right now), there is the tale of the tribe of Dan migrating to the city of Laish, which they took and re-named Dan, and picking up along the way a renegade Levite, Jonathan the heir of Gershom the son of...
  10. bob x

    "holy scriptures"

    Well, I wish you would, since I don't have much clue what you are trying to say. It sounds as if you are saying that revelation doesn't change anything, in which case it should be ignored as an irrelevancy (?). IS there any such "tendency"? Certainly there is a tendency for humans to talk...
  11. bob x

    Abdul-Baha's 1912 Authentic Covenant

    I am reminded of my discussions with Thomas about the evolution from the disciples of Jesus to the Catholic/Orthodox Church, and the problems of determining which texts are genuine, and what they meant, and which historic figure was really on what side of what issue. It is, in my own view, a...
  12. bob x

    Abdul-Baha's 1912 Authentic Covenant

    Well Ruth, I can't speak for Brian, but I think he wants from you more about what you DO believe, instead of just "Those other guys are wrong." Statements like "the apparent members of the Haifan Baha'i denomination here have not provided much, if any, evidence that they've seriously read..."...
  13. bob x

    "holy scriptures"

    For you, personally, the Christian texts have some effectiveness. For others, they don't speak, and other texts do better. For some, an eclectic mixture of insights from differing texts works better. You, personally, may not get much from syncretism-- *shrug* what makes your personal needs...
  14. bob x

    Yahweh-yireh

    Well, *I* was taught, indeed, that the Nazis were crazy and that their notion of the "Aryan race" was a fiction, that "Aryan" was really just an old word for the Indo-Iranians, and so on. If you didn't get that, it appears to be more of a function of how little you paid attention in school than...
  15. bob x

    Garden of Eden

    When I said "the text" does not talk about Jews building the pyramids, I was reading the text of Exodus. The text of the news articles you cited did talk about the folk-legend that Jews built the pyramids (Begin, as noted, was responsible for propagating that one) but that has nothing to do...
  16. bob x

    Yahweh-yireh

    And the reason it's in the textbooks is because it's in the history. It is of course very important that students are taught about the major slaughter of the previous century; more so than that they be taught about ancient linguistics from thousands of years ago. I was taught that the Germans...
  17. bob x

    Reliions What about the bridge between all the religions?

    You are writing in alphabetic script, taken directly from the Romans, who took it from the Greeks, who took it from Semites of the Canaanite group-- so why aren't paying royalties to Italy, Greece, or Israel? You probably drive a car, without paying royalties to Iraq for the "wheel" idea, and...
  18. bob x

    "holy scriptures"

    Of course, my experience is the direct reverse, as with many others. That certainly militates against any view that one batch of texts is qualitatively different from the other. The condition is neurological ("temporal lobe epilepsy"), not a "psychosis" which is something very different...
  19. bob x

    Garden of Eden

    Ah! It has always amused me when an Israeli spokesman is speaking English in a plummy UK accent and then comes out with a word like, say, "IsRaeli", where that growl gives away that it is not actually the Baronet of Covendale-Renfrew speaking. And Gaza is an interesting case, because while...
  20. bob x

    Reliions What about the bridge between all the religions?

    The world does not need to be re-fragmented into Stone Age tribes who share no ideas with each other. There is zero chance of any such thing happening. Because the idea has been out in public for thousands of years. Just about everybody.
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