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  1. OupaPiet

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    I like it when us humble people make up beautiful stories about LOVE. Such as the one where If you love someone, set it free, and if it return....If it dont..... You know that one. Well lets see. God did not create humans to be parrots, or robots, doing exactly as He programmed them. He Did not...
  2. OupaPiet

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    OK, accepted.
  3. OupaPiet

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    I agree totally with you. When Muhammad received his so called revelation from Allah through some 'angel', he was told that the Christian and Jews were the worst of creatures. and that they were filthiest. (Najes) And that they must be killed, or if they submit to the yoke of Islam, must pay...
  4. OupaPiet

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    Well, you dont need to eat organic matter to gain mass. You eat to gain energy! If you have a different body that does not need sustenance in the form of food, but can use energy to exist, how nice. No deterioration, no disease, no hunger thirst pain.... Is this not what Jesus said we will become?
  5. OupaPiet

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    Who cares what the Catholics say? I stay on what the Bible say. And, it remains a fact that Allah supposedly will ask Isa if he told people to worship him and Mary besides Allah. Therefore, if the Quran speaks about the Trinity, it has a warped idea of what Christians believe. If you now claim...
  6. OupaPiet

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    Or... Take me and my mother for two gods (1+1) beside Allah(+1)
  7. OupaPiet

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    Or perhaps you have trouble understanding the Quran my friend. 5:115 And when Allah saith: O Isa, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me (1) and my mother(2) for two gods beside Allah(3)? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to )utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say...
  8. OupaPiet

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    Really? John lived past 100 AD. His disciple, Polycarp continued his work. He was martyred in 56 AD for his belief, refusing to worship the Caesar, worshiping Jesus. Now, in this regard, the Gospels was written before 80AD, and John would have spoken against anything written falsely and inserted...
  9. OupaPiet

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    Your Translation on the Quran is a very weak one. 5: 73. Certainly those who say, "Indeed, Allah is the third of three!" And there is no god except the One God. And if they do not desist from what they are saying, surely those who are infidels among them, will be afflicted with a painful...
  10. OupaPiet

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    Perhaps you misunderstood me. I simply asked you : What is your opinion of the Trinity? Not if you believe in it. If, say for instance, I would speak to a Muslim scholar, he would tell me it is 3 gods, and one should not have any god besides Allah. I would then say, but I dont believe in 3...
  11. OupaPiet

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    You are welcome to ask questions, and to test any statement. I learned many times from people who had a little more insight than me, and some of those thoughts changed my mind drastically. back to the Tree of Life. I have the idea that not only Adam and Eve were very different in their...
  12. OupaPiet

    What is the way?

    Now Why would you say such a thing? perhaps you can tell me how it was possible that Emmanuel Kant found the full description on the origins of the Universe from Genesis, which incidentally was proven correct by Hulley in 1925? How is it possible that science are using Kant's Nebular theory...
  13. OupaPiet

    What is the way?

    Yes...
  14. OupaPiet

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    OK, So why dont you tell me what Islam thinks the Trinity consists of? I think this will clarify everything about the differences between the Quran and the Bible.
  15. OupaPiet

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    "OupaPiet said: In this regard, YHWH is not a God that created Man to test and trial him, to send him to hell, or to leave this created man in death.." On the contrary. It has everything to do with God. God created Man to be His Friend. and after Satan removed Man from God by corrupting our...
  16. OupaPiet

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    John knew Jesus in person. John was boiled in oil for believing that Jesus was the divine Son of God. He survived the ordeal. The Gospel of John dates from before 90 AD, well in the mind of disciples and witnesses who knew Jesus themselves. The ololdest papyri fragments of John is dated at 80...
  17. OupaPiet

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    Nope, I can not Find Jesus Christ in any other book than in the Bible. I did however find imposers. I have read many books and could fins people attempting to place Jesus Christ in their religion, but I also found that their attempts are just one huge lie to attain power, money, and women.
  18. OupaPiet

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    Half way true. The Trinity did create physical substances. He also entered into Creation when He created it all. later on He came to humans and spoke to them in person. He even lived amongst them in a tabernacle and temple (or shall I say His "Glory" lived among us) Eventually He decided to...
  19. OupaPiet

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    And to elaborate on Thomas' answer. It is not up to Jews and Muslims to decide on what the Trinity is or should be. I have not seen any Muslim or Jew that has an understanding of the Trinity. For instance, Muslims are of mind that the Trinity is Allah, Mary and baby Jesus. That is anyhow how...
  20. OupaPiet

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    Also easy to understand. The Word was never begotten before the birth of Jesus. This means the Word (Mind of God) is God eternal. To interact with His created MAN, God sent His Word to Earth as a HUMAN. The Word was conceived without human interception for the Holy Ghost overpowered Mary's human...
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