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every day is great...well most days :>)

The first time I visited New York, my host took me to a restaurant for large(in weight) people. I saw families, all large having ginormous meals. I was with 2 other people and we ordered one horderve(sp?) between us and were well-filled. Anyway, it was education :cool:

Well, I ain't American but I hall enjoy one of these today

Perhaps that the secrets of the universe are difficult to understand. Yes, nicely put.

Actually, I know some do. I have had several occurrences(over several decades) when people find out I am a born Jew, even after I explain that I am an atheist. I never regarded that as a problem. When that happens, I show them the Hebrew and answer them with what I think a religious Jew would...

Indeed. I suppose Kabir was using poetic license. ETA Kabir also said many illogical things in much of his stuff E.G. Brother, I've seen some Astonishing sights: A lion keeping watch Over pasturing cows; A mother delivered After her son was; A guru prostrated Before his disciple; Fish...

@TheLightWithin In reference to this part of the poem THERE is a strange tree, which stands without roots and bears fruits without blossoming; It has no branches and no leaves, it is lotus all over. The lotus, when mentioned in many writings usually refers to enlightenment, because the lotus...

Thanks. Gosh, now I have to read the Heart Sutra as well as Plato.

I have not ever read Plato(don't tell anyone :>)), however the last sentence demonstrates that no particular culture owns knowledge and there are many roads to 'getting there'.

That sounds good and the second part "The Formless is in the midst of all forms. I sing the glory of forms." could be saying that he has realized/seen the formless in everything. Kabir was known always to speak from his own experience, maybe this was a moment of his realization/enlightenment.

It is a single poem that I got from https://www.hinduwebsite.com/sacredscripts/other/kabir_main.asp

Because I regard the whole of existence as the Guru. I said the disciple is 'a life', meaning any person. What's your view? @Ahanu ETA Actually it was your post in another thread where you quoted "Lover and Friend are one being, and separate beings too, as the polisher melts in the mirror’s...

I have found this particular poem always takes me to a comfortable place within. Even though I don't fully understand it. For me, 'Guru' here represents existence itself and disciple being a life. I am curious to see how other's understand this poem, in particular the last line. THERE is a...

I think the writer was saying that gaining more knowledge(of the world) increases awareness of bad things. While this can be true, the joy of increased knowledge out weighs the bad things. The writer's view is pessimistic, imo.

That's from Ecclesiates 1:16 & 17 The writer's meaning is supplied in the verse following 18. For in much wisdom is much vexation, and he who increases knowledge, increases pain.

No and yes, I know many who have become Christian(including a family member). What are the criteria that should be used to compare?

Cat's Heaven https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/check-out-cat-heaven-built-on-the-ceiling/

@ScholarlySeeker (Just a quick comment, not really a reply to your questions.) The Zohar was the first esoteric book I read at the age of 15(60 years ago). I really cannot remember the details other than I was left with the strong impression that there is something else to become aware of. I...

Great. I was present and helped in my daughter's delivery. It was a wonderous experience.