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  1. Longfellow

    One God, Many Paths

    In my understanding of the Bible, the God of Abraham has no number. He is not one, or three, or many or none. He has no number, not even zero. Monotheism might be popular in Abrahamic religions, but I don't see it in the Bible.
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    Jesus as sacrifice, scapegoat and ransom

    I also have some disagreements with the liberal side of Christianity. Here are some examples: - I disagree with saying that Paul replaced the teachings of Jesus with teachings about Jesus. The reason for Paul not writing about the life and teachings of Jesus apart from His resurrection and His...
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    Jesus as sacrifice, scapegoat and ransom

    One of my disagreements with some Christian beliefs is that I don't think that Jesus paid a price that we owe, or took a punishment that we deserve, for our sins. I think that what we owe for our sins is repentance, and that we are forgiven as soon as we repent, or maybe even before. I have a...
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    The second coming = WWJD

    The only people who are called “Christians” in the Bible are the disciples in Antioch, and it isn’t Jesus or the apostles who are calling them that. It probably means “people who think that Jesus was the Christ.” It doesn’t say anything about what they are saying about Him, other than being a...
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    The second coming = WWJD

    I read the whole chapter again, and I’ll explain my understanding of what Paul is saying there. Before we accept Jesus as our lord, we are like slaves to the sinful side of human nature, just doing whatever our desires and impulses tell us to do, and making up excuses for it. What happened in...
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    The second coming = WWJD

    He calls His gospel "gospel of the kingdom." What is your understanding of His teachings about the kingdom? Maybe that answers my question of what Jesus you're thinking of. It looks like you're thinking of the one in Bible stories, without claiming to know if there ever really was such a person.
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    The second coming = WWJD

    I'm responding to this because it's at the heart of my disagreement with Christians. I think that Jesus was the sacrifice to end all ritual sacrifice, a scapegoat to carry all sins away for all time, and a ransom to free us from slavery to the sinful side of our nature, but not that he paid a...
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    The second coming = WWJD

    Reading this, I'm wondering where your ideas are coming from of who Jesus was and what he did. Are you thinking of the Jesus in Bible stories, or are you thinking of some kind of historical Jesus, different from the one in Bible stories? If it's some kind of historical Jesus, how did you decide...
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    Non-Christian follower of Jesus

    I've posted in this forum before, but I'm introducing myself because I see myself in a different way from how I did then. I say that I'm not a Christian because I don't agree with the beliefs of any Christian denomination, but I recognize and accept Jesus as my lord and the Lord of God's...
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    Modalism + Partialism = Trinitarianism?

    You might be reading it wrong, because of the direction of "is" in two of the connectors. For example, it should be read as "The Son is God," not "God is the Son." The "is" in the Trinity doctrine doesn't go both ways like it does in other contexts. I see a way of understanding that diagram...
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    Modalism + Partialism = Trinitarianism?

    Now I'm thinking that "the Trinity" is whatever anyone wants it to be. (later) Whatever anyone wants it to be, to be able to say that they believe in it, or to argue against it.
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    My disagreements with other people about the teachings of Jesus

    I agree that His authority comes from the Father, but I didn't think that He said that explicitly anywhere in the gospels. I was wrong. Just now I searched and found this: John 5:26-27
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    Modalism + Partialism = Trinitarianism?

    I agree. That's exactly what I think, that He is just what He says.
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    Modalism + Partialism = Trinitarianism?

    After reading the article that I quoted above, now I would say that the Trinity is a divine revelation, but the Trinity doctrine is a human explanation. Ilater) From some of your posts, it looks to me like maybe you thought that I was arguing against the claims of the Catholic church. Nothing I...
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    Modalism + Partialism = Trinitarianism?

    It looks to me like there’s some misunderstanding about something I said. I'm reading this now: The Best Guide for Understanding the Trinity Maybe it will help me understand your question or what you're trying to say.
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    My disagreements with other people about the teachings of Jesus

    Where does He say it comes from?
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    Modalism + Partialism = Trinitarianism?

    Thank you. I can't think of anything to say that I haven't already said, that might answer your question. I'll just repeat here as much as I can remember. Sometimes people try to resolve what they see as contradictions in the scriptures by denying the authenticity of some parts of them, or...
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    My disagreements with other people about the teachings of Jesus

    The way it looks to me now is that He is a promised king of Israel, and people can enter His kingdom now, spiritually, but the time has not come yet for it to happen physically. I'm only talking here about the teachings of Jesus in the Bible gospels. The teachings of Paul might be a different...
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    Modalism + Partialism = Trinitarianism?

    A direct revelation from God? Does the church say that? I would say no to that. Is what you're asking about a teaching of the church? If so, can you quote it for me in full context, or give me a link to where I can read about it? If not, it might take a lot of time and effort for both of us...
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    Modalism + Partialism = Trinitarianism?

    I'm still confused about what you're asking me. Can you start over and try again? (later) You asked me: "But is trinity a divine revelation, or just a human explanation?" Does the church say that it's a divine revelation? If so, can you quote it for me in full context, or give me a link to...
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