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Perhaps we should apply the Nike slogan to Brahman? Just do it!

But the Oneness we are discussing here CAN help us integrate inner and outer resources. A calling out for in a social/interpersonal sense, but more like stepping into, or aligning with, in an intentional being sense. The Judeo/Christian tradition is awfully social and personifies spiritual...

I like that a lot. Similar to the observer effect postulated in Quantum Physics Theory, in which regular human consciousness during the act of observation tends to make quanta act more like a particle than a wave (reverse madusa—creature described in Homer’s The Odyssey— that would turn the...

The notion of continuous self-origination could work from a kind of overall reality that unfolds (and is taken back into) a deep zone that has no time or space. The creator God would be how we see it from a time/space perspective. But perhaps it is continuous creation all the time from everywhere?

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Basically just putting the metaphor of a fountain flowing deep and wide to use within whatever religious framework one is comfortable with. God conceptualized as being in the deepest zone of overall reality and at base of being.

Our discussion here inspired this potential beginning of a potential book. Please critique (if interested). : After many years of philosophizing about spirituality, I seem to have settled on one main focus: depth. While I continue to touch on many other foci, such as wholeness, potentiality...

I think I might have some of those argumentative genes also. My last name of Moneyhon is most likely of Irish origin. The area where I was raised was mostly German and Irish ancestry.

Consistent with the hypothesis of an “observer effect,” a suspension of regular knowledge by trusting in God, would improve the ability to mentally access and use quantum effects. The modern mind would need to suspend certainty in other ways. Perhaps seeing/sensing that physical reality is...

The “active” part of David Bohm’s and Basil Hiley’s “active information” that orchestrates coordinated action between isolated electrons suggests an energy component of the “information.” This quantum behavior would be consistent with phenomena such as remote healing. If, during collective...

“Wave” (spirit) function collapse? Older beliefs taking on increasingly deadened, matter-like characteristics, like quanta acting more like a particle than a wave. In psychology, new therapies work so well that the promoters assume it is based on the theory behind the therapy. As the therapy...

Epistemological philosopher Ken Wilber distinguishes between subjective truth and objective truth (actually 4 basic kinds or truth “quadrants,” but subjective/objective seems the main distinction). Metaphorical or figurative truths reveal reliable subjective meaning that can be applied to...

Re: It's a myth if it ain't metaphor yet...once it is it becomes allegory. I finally grasped what you meant. The typo was throwing me off. Yes, once you understand the pattern behind the picture is more true than the picture itself—understand it abstractly instead of literally/concretely, it has...

The notion of more divine aspects at the base of a fountain flowing up/out into its outermost areas seems analogous to the resurrection story because deadened stuff that is plagued by entropy because it is materially existing is rejuvenated, as though brought back to life—often in new and...

Allegories seem to dance with real life even more than isolated metaphors. I love the way allegories are used in the Bible.

To my more or less way of thinking it is applicable. You might have to point out ways it isn’t, before I can appreciate the distinction you are making. That is, if you don’t think it will fall on deaf ears or fail to get through my thick head (and, of course, if you want to take the time and...

“Metaphors” may be better word for what I meant by myth. Clearly, I use words loosely. You differentiate better. BTW, I’m fairly sure you knew it was YOU I was talking about when I said a participant nudged me back to humility about discerning God’s nature. I appreciate your willingness to...

Truest FOR ME, as in “it works best for me.” Partly because it seems a simpler way of conceptualizing our connection to God. A single flowing fountain with different aspects according to what depth level it is experienced and/or interacted with, is easier to grasp (to me, that is) than the three...

Great idea for a discussion thread. To be honest, a frequent impression I have after philosophizing/theologizing here is that we are all just making this stuff up. And by all, I include the originators of all religions. One participant here successfully nudged me back to a position of knowing...

We would need to create trust culturally, either before or during the resource sharing