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So Christ did not say “Be Ye Transformed?” It was gleaned from what Paul was saying when referring to Christ? Thanks for clarifying

I guess I see “wholeness” as also representing Divine and human. To me there can be no wholeness of being without the Ground of Being (Paul Tillich’s reference to God). And because I see wholeness as having Divinity baked into it (or as Divinity eclipsing it?) , your second point makes perfect...

Thomas, As usual, you do a great job pushing me to the limits of my rational deliberation! That’s why I give it a thumbs up. My tendency to think poetically does seem to frequently blur the line between analogy and a more objective or logically consistent kind of truth. I’ll do the best I can...

This, that you said on the Trinity thread seems very aligned with my concepts here. We seem to be on the same, or at least similar, “page.” LightWithin’s views also seem to be on the same (or similar) page. I think I share with Lightwithin what I call a “Supra-natural” emphasis when it comes to...

Certainly more and greater than my meager individual mind can conceive, but comforting to think that God, Mind Itself, informs (puts some of the form into) my highly speculative thought.

While it seems true that we did not create ourselves, the created self is not merely a static noun, it is a working verb in progress. Assuming that the human mind can choose to see and approach (work with) being as a verb, it can largely determine the specific characteristics that develop in the...

In the Trinity thread. Thomas equates the Son with Logos. Logos, the Word, seems in line with philosophical Idealism that posits ultimate reality to be more like mind than anything else we can conceive. Stand alone thoughts come out of a mind in general. Mind is within or behind the particular...

Also suggests Christ thought we had it in us to be transformed, to grow spiritually—the potential is there. While we all sin, it doesn’t define who we are. Perhaps Christ would agree with Wayne Dyer’s premise that we are spiritual beings in a human form? Seems that way to me.

If so, how can that jive with the theology of substitutional atonement in which it is believed he and his Father took away our enslavement to sin? Wouldn’t Christ have said “Let me transform you?” if the standard ransom payment thing were true? Seems fair to say instead that he showed us...

This resonates with me, seems true

I didn’t address the dynamics on the losing side of the world as currently constituted. Losers feel so powerless and deficient that they desperately long for a win. Any kind of a win, even if by putting others down, scapegoating to blame THEM, and finally feeling superior to someone. Of course...

EricPH, Two tracks of my recent thinking (one with philosophizing with my youngest son earlier today. The other while reading chapters 5 and 6 of J R Daniel Kirks’s book, Romans for Normal People). And now your thoughts seem to form a third converging track. My point with my son was that our...

EricPH, Two tracks of my recent thinking (one with philosophizing with my youngest son earlier today. The other while reading chapters 4 and 5 of J R Daniel Kirks’s book, Romans for Normal People). And now your thoughts seem to form a third converging track. My point with my son was that our...

One God The great Unkown Seems a single thing. There could be millions of things Beyond it. But if we can’t discern Even two or three of those things, Why waste time thinking On it? Use your time instead To see how the known And the Unknown interacts. Don’t clutter your...

The gift of intellectual understanding is different than experiential understanding. The former is a doing (albeit internal) sort of thing. While the latter is a being sort of thing. And we probably agree that the latter IS the greater of the two, but both are needed for sustainable spiritual...

Never mind!

Like that, But again, I simply emphasize that it’s not not self. I want to lovingly protect us from authoritarianism, a vulnerability to resolving the fear and tension of not knowing by clinging to the answers a so-called “higher authority” (BEYOND our limited little selves) gives us and rescues...

From Reptilian brain stem “eat or be eaten”, to mammalian limbic system “let’s help each other,” to cortical (modern rationality) “what overall gets the most bang for our buck?”, to prefrontal cortex’s “how can we harmonize and energize our very humanity?” ???? Of course we are having trouble...

This would explain why, before I was ever taught the facts of life or the science of genetics I saw either in a dream or mind’s eye (a vision) men and women connected at each other’s midsection in a twisting chain. I later learned that I saw a representation of the double helix.

The only difference in our view seems to be that I think that faith is a mental act even though it is not cognitive. I write poetry and lyrics using faith at times, because it comes out of nowhere as far as the thinking mind is concerned. You may disagree by saying it relies on subconscious...