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Yes, but in which book, chapter and verse of "his word" does God say he has no choice but to punish sin?

I also wrote a response to the whole "instrinsic value" thing, but for some reason the forum isn't letting it show up. Let me try just posting my own bits without the quoted bits . . . If you see a starving child on the street, would you feed him? If so, why are you treating him as a means to...

If you see a starving child on the street, would you feed him? If so, why are you treating him as a means to the end of alleviating his hunger? If not, how can your inaction possibly be considered moral? Why is it wrong, if the child's health depends on it? To make the analogy even clearer...

So if God's nature is that he must lie to the world in the Bible, lie to individual humans in divine revelation, and send everyone to Hell regardless of belief, there's nothing he can do about it? Remember, since we cannot know God's thoughts, we cannot know that that's not the case.

If you see a starving child on the street, would you feed him? If so, why are you treating him as a means to the end of alleviating his hunger? If not, how can your inaction possibly be considered moral? Why is it wrong, if the child's health depends on it? To make the analogy even clearer...

Where in his word? In which book, chapter and verse?

If you see a starving child on the street, would you feed him? If so, why are you treating him as a means to the end of alleviating his hunger? If not, how can your inaction possibly be considered moral? Why is it wrong, if the child's health depends on it? To make the analogy even clearer...

If you see a starving child on the street, would you feed him? If so, why are you treating him as a means to the end of alleviating his hunger? If not, how can your inaction possibly be considered moral? Why is it wrong, if the child's health depends on it? To make the analogy even clearer...

Outside of whatever masochists you may happen to know, can you name even a single person who, given all the facts and capable of making an informed decision, would WILLINGLY choose to be tortured here on Earth -- that is, tortured finitely, and for a non-eternal period of time? If so, have...

Says who?

Hold on -- given that we're not capable of understanding God's thoughts, how do you know that God wants what you say he wants? If you cite scripture, then how do you know -- in fact, how are you CAPABLE of knowing -- that God didn't lie throughout the whole thing? You've explained it, perhaps...

What's wrong with that? Wouldn't someone who is eternally suffering gladly give up the abstract notion of intrinsic value in exchange for being spared further suffering? How is that an act of respect? When children don't want to eat their vegetables, is it an act of respect to honor their...

Why is total oblivion not an option? Wouldn't it be kinder to end a soul's existence rather than subject them to eternal torture?

How can something even slightly imperfect come from an infinitely perfect being?