All Eurasia is Abraham's seed(according to religion.

[dan b]

Hi guys, It's possible that the"Earth" of Gen.22;18 is the very continent that Abraham was standing on, Eurasia. It's round, flat and surrounded by water. People didn't think the entire earth was flat just their piece Eurasia.

Abraham is often referred to as being the "father of many nations." Gen.17;4 "And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;..." he is told in Gen.22;18. This is because Abraham sent out his sons to all the nations of Eurasia with their religions written in a book.(or memorised as the Vedas were)

Abraham sent Isaac to the west and Ishmael remained, but not before his "sons of Keturah were sent eastward carrying the future religion of India and China in their Vedic Law Books. Gen.25;6 These Vedas are so similar in ideas and sacrifices to the Old Testament Bible that it infers a close relationship.

The Sons of Keturah, Abraham's 3d wife, descended into India as the Aryans and introduced Vedic culture which is called Hinduism. Hinduism in turn sponsored Buddism.

While the descendants of Ishmael would wait until about 621AD before becoming a great nation, the tribes of Israel who were the descendants of Isaac went west to become the Christian Countries of Europe.

Native Aboriginal Cultures are "in harmony with nature" because they did not develope their religions and cultures from a Mesopotamian beginning. They began and developed their own cultures and religions from nature. In a way these three religious cultures of Eurasia are the 1st world, the 2d world, and India and China until recently are the 3d world. dan b

 

[Vajradhara]

Namaste Dan,

thank you for the post.

Hi guys, It's possible that the"Earth" of Gen.22;18 is the very continent that Abraham was standing on, Eurasia. It's round, flat and surrounded by water. People didn't think the entire earth was flat just their piece Eurasia.

hmm.... that's somewhat problematic, wouldn't you say, given that these exist in Eurasia: File:Jungfrau2.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

metta,

~v

 

[dan b]

The mountains are nothing. I travelled thru the Kyber pass myself long ago. Religions culture is like ideas, it travels through the cracks. Of our heads and the mountains.

FIRST WORLD..................SECOND WORLD.............THIRD WORLD

CHRISTIANS.........................ISLAM.......................BUDDHISTS

...ISRAEL..............................................................HINDUS
...ISSAC.............................ISHMAEL.............SONS OF KETURAH

.......................................ABRAHAM.....................................

..........................................NOAH.......................................

.....................................ADAM AND EVE......................4000BC

 

[Vajradhara]

Namaste Dan,

thank you for the post.

The mountains are nothing.

other than making things non-flat and influencing weather, i'd agree. my point is that Bronze Age stone hut dwellers knew the world was not flat topographically and coastal cities and dwellers (not to mention a few more astute beings) understood that the world was not flat either...how else could you explain seeing the mast before you see the ship?

metta,

~v

 

[dan b]

Thanks for the call. I think that the bible, when it says the earth, often is not lying if it means the earth that Adam, Abraham and the 12 Tribes of Israel were living on. Eurasia is disconected from the other continents. So you can take it two ways when some said that "the earth" is a round flat piece of land with water all around it. It doesn't make the earth flat people of ancient days look so bad. It does't do anything for the "earth is flat society" of today mindyou! In this way Abraham's seed spread accross all the earth.(Eurasia) All the religions of Eurasia came from Mesopotamia. Religion on other continents such as America and Africa were often made up there from scratch and nature. Of course soon, as you pointed out, sea people soon figured out the entire earths full boundries. But lets give the old old guys a break, they were'nt so dumb. dan b

 

[Dogbrain]

Let's see, according to Josephus, Zimra settled in "Arabia Felix", approximately what is now known as Yemen. Jokshan settled in Arabia Felix and along the Red Sea coasts. Medan settled somewhere in Arabia Felix. Midian is the ancestor of the Midianites, in northwest Arabia. Ishbak settled somewhere in Arabia Felix or east of Arabia Felix. Shuah settled in Mesopotamia, in the region now part of northern Syria. That covers all of the sons of Keturah. None of them entered India. Likewise, none of them were Aryans, but all were Semites. The Aryan spoke, of course, an Aryan language, part of the Indo-European language family. The sons of Abraham spoke a Semitic language, part of the Afroasiatic language family.

 

[dan b]

If you study both Persian(aryan) and Arabic you can see that the name "Abraham" is actually Aryan. It is a farsi(persian) type of word. If you know the sound of both Arabic(Hebrew) and Persian you can easily hear where it belongs.
In Persian, when a word is written it becomes longer then the spoken world. So the word "Abram" when written becomes "Ab-ra-ham. There is much to show that there were two groups called Aryans and Semites. Now the Aryans are the Indo-european language group and the Semites speak Arabic. Is the Bible semetic. Oh, I know that they say it is today. But theres a place in Iran called the "Rock of Behistun" where this study begins. dan b

 

[shawn]

After the flood we all became one stock so all divisions after that are purely arbitrary and are only there to confuse and divide, just like Babel.
Language was confused to keep us down.
Shall we stay there, or shall we do something about that and put these irrelevant divisions behind us?
White, Black, Yellow, Red, this tribe or that tribe, this bloodline or that pedigree it matters not.
We are all One.
those who highlight the differences and divisions as if they were significant are, knowingly or not, holding us back.
Maybe it's time to get off the short bus already.

 

[dan b]

The Flood of Noah was at about 3000BC. The Tribes of Israel were formed about 2000BC according to Biblical symbology. Jesus sent his messengers to "only the lost sheep of Israel." at 0. Matt.15;24 James addresses hes epistle to " the twelve tribes that are scatterd abroad." But your are right anyway, Christianity knows no difference between people. If you yearn for righteousness have faith in Jesus and you may enter.

 

[shawn]

The Flood of Noah was at about 3000BC. The Tribes of Israel were formed about 2000BC according to Biblical symbology. Jesus sent his messengers to "only the lost sheep of Israel." at 0. Matt.15;24 James addresses hes epistle to " the twelve tribes that are scatterd abroad." But your are right anyway, Christianity knows no difference between people. If you yearn for righteousness have faith in Jesus and you may enter.

IMO you do not require a faith in Jesus, just the faith of Jesus.
Worshiping Jesus is idolatrous as you are putting an intermediary between you and God.
Sure he said I and the Father are one, but that goes for everyone.
You and the Creator are one and so too with everyone, whether you realize it or not.
The only thing we need saving from is our ignorance which keeps this knowledge from us.

 

[dan b]

Hi Shawn, nice to hear from you. The thing about it is in the end, on Judgment day, there are books. Rev.20;12 One of them contains all of the deeds that we each did in our lifetime by which we shall be judged. But the other, it could be Jesus's personal book with the names of those who followed/believed in him. He once said that he came to gather the sheep that his father gave him. He also said(somewhere or other I don't have a concordance) that the father gave him the the right to make judgment on us. So I'd like to maybe, if possible get into his book. dan b

 

[wil]

Since G!d knows everything before we ask...ya know that omniscient thing...

Do you really think he'd need a book? Don't you think he was usin spreadsheets and PDA's long before us? Can you imagine how many songs he has on his ipod?

What I'm getting at is the whole book thing is based on the belief and understanding of the interpreters of whatever version of the bible you are reading...and I only say interpretters because we know there wasn't even any such thing as a book when revelation was writtien....so what was that word we read today as book, but we really know is some bad *ss Xbrontobyte thumb drive?

 

[Bhaktajan II]

A few factoids for the commitee and gallery present,
[please feel free to imbibe some libation while I rammble on]:

IMO, The Root of the word 'Europe (Europa)'
'uru' in sanskrit = wide-open, vast.
'purusha' in sanskrit = person/persona.

The Prime Family Tree of World Languages =
"INDO-EUROPEAN" Family Tree of Languages use Two words:

Indo, and
European


The "Middle-East" region of the world is on-the-side-of "The East" region of the world. [Is there a west side of the east too?].

The last world emperor before the advent of Western history was named 'Judisthira' (hindi pronounciation) [the elder of five brothers princes who fought a civil war over the titleship of world empire immortalised in the ancient epic the Mahabharata, whence the bhagavad-gita is contained].

This epoch of history ended with the expolsion & exiles of the remnents of the warrior classes out of the pre-western world's capital city, namely Hastinapury (present day Old Delhi, India) ---the warrior classes migrated A) West and also B) East ---ergo, the propensities of the general movement of western history.

The British/Spanish/Dutch Empire on the western shores and the Japanese on the Eastern end. Note that approximately 90 years after the America Navy Admiral Perry Forced Japan to open their economy to American Trade, they attacked pearl Harbor.

BTW, the western migration of wester history was slower: Fertile cresent Babylon, Greece, Rome, Franks, Spain, Portugal, Hispanola, Cuba, Yucatan, Panama Canal, Louisanna Purchase, Daniel Boone, Furr Trappers, Manifest Destiny, the Missisippi River, Oregon Trail, Alaska was all started to 'get to India the quickest way possible so help me god'.

 

[Bhaktajan II]

The "indo-european" family of languages has Two words in it:

indo - derived from the words 'Indus' River Vally and/or 'India'

european - derived from ??? [yet, the sanskrit prefix "uru" means wide open expanse; and, the the sanskrit word for person is Purusha]

 

[iBrian]

Apologies - post caught by the anti-spam filter - now approved.

 

[dan b]

The "indo-european" family of languages has Two words in it:

indo - derived from the words 'Indus' River Vally and/or 'India'

european - derived from ??? [yet, the sanskrit prefix "uru" means wide open expanse; and, the the sanskrit word for person is Purusha]

Hello bhakyajan, hari bol! I just found the word of " India " in the original Parsi(Persian) language. It's " hend." Is that how they go the word "Hindu?" I wonder. I know that Hindi/Urdu came with the Aryans from Persia/Iran.(Aryan) Do you know for sure? I'm studying language development. thanks dan b

 

[Bhaktajan II]

Oh Danny Boy,

Bolo Hari.

I know that Hindi/Urdu came with the Aryans from Persia/Iran.(Aryan)

Yes, 'Iran' means land of the 'Aryan'.

But I do not agree that Aryan Culture came from the Iranian Plateau.

I believe that Aryans were always in India and later spread out and dwindled in influence as western history unfolded.

Regarding the mother tongue, check out the 'OED' Oxford English Dictionary.

Cheers.

BTW, there is a great book called 'mother tongue' pub circa 1990.

 

[dan b]

Hello again Bhaktajan,
It's an interesting topic this Eurasian religion stuff. I've been at it for a while too. Good to hear your side of it. What I've been investigating comes from the pages of the Bible. It says " the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of nations fell. "Rev.16;19 If we take this "great city " to be Eurasia then it's already happend. Eurasia is divided into a Hindu-Buddhist section in the east and a Christian section in the west. Dividing it is the great Islamic desert strip. The populations of these three great religion groups is also about even with 2 billion adherents in each. Heres a little blurb I wrote about them.

From the center of the earth's Great landmass god sent his two witnesses to walk to and fro dispensing to mankind the reality of his existence. Rev.11;3 The Bible tells us in it's protected metaphorical language of their comings and goings. Consider the following;
All of the world's great and enduring religions have proceeded out of the same place.(I know you may not agree) From the center of the middle eastern region Judo-Christianity travelled west. At the same time the foundation of Hindu-Buddhism travelled east out of this same area under the guise of what we today call the "Aryan invasions." These Aryan people that flooded down and conquered the eastern lands of India did indeed come from the very same regions as their name sugests.( Aryans from Iran)
Whereas the Abrahamic Hebrew religion was cut off about the time of 500BC with the Babylonian conquest, Hinduism in the east also was disrupted at this same time by Buddhism.(Buddha-500BC) Then Christianity, a graft onto Hebrewism took off with a new vigor and flourished to the west, Buddhism did the same but to the east.
Whereas Judo-Christianity awaited and venerated it's Messiah, Christ Jesus(Krestos), Hinduism bestowed it's special honor to Krishna. While Krishna is said to be the 8th incarnation of the Hindu Deity, Vishnu, the name Kristos(Jesus) in it's original greek form has a numeric value of "888." Coincidences? Hardly!
Added to this we can see that both the eastern Hindu and the western Hebrew-Judaic traditions have very similar if not almost identical types of sacrifices on alters involving invocations, fire and the blood of animals. Both are concerned and have a pre-occupation with staying with their own castes, eating only their own foods and remaining apart from others to avoid becoming polluted. Surely these two religions have much more in common than has been up to now acknowledged. Hope to hear from you again soon Bhaktajan. peace and understanding dan b

 

[Dogbrain]

A few factoids for the commitee and gallery present,
[please feel free to imbibe some libation while I rammble on]:

IMO, The Root of the word 'Europe (Europa)'
'uru' in sanskrit = wide-open, vast.
'purusha' in sanskrit = person/persona.

Not bad, but not quite. It is Greek and means "wide face", from the roots " εύρυς" (wide) and "οπς" (face or eye)

The "Middle-East" region of the world is on-the-side-of "The East" region of the world. [Is there a west side of the east too?].

It's generally known as "The West". "Middle East" is the world from a British perspective. It's not the "Far East" (India, China, Japan, etc.) nor the "Near East" (the Balkans, etc.).