Was JESUS the only heavenly being to incarnate into the human community from heaven?

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  1. donnann

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    I have sent you saviors. Does anyone think that he was the only one that incarnated into the human community?
     
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    Now I could say we've all incarnated into the human community....

    Or we could say according to the various stories there were many....

    The Bible mentions Melchisideck as having no parents, of which Jesus was labeled a priest in his order....

    the only begotten of the continually begotten
     
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    Maybe I should have first defined my defination of incarnation. To me incarnation is when a heavenly being is sent into the human body for the purpose, a mission of sorts from GOD to help humanity in some way. I believe a human spirit doesnt come into existance until the sperm and egg unite and comes from a union of the two parents consciousness where as heavenly beings have a prehuman body soul and spirit that is literally one and exist in the heavenly kingdom prior to coming into the human body. I do however believe in reincarnation where once a human spirit exists and the body dies that spirit can be born again into the human body. So do you think say for example that men like moses or buddha were these incarnated beings?
     
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    By that definition, no to Buddha, Moses and Jesus.
     
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    I believe thats a yes
     
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    I kinda sorta like what my bride has to say "they are all the same soul, so are we but we don't know it yet." Bright lady, even if she had the poor taste to marry (and stay with) me.

    Love, Radarmark
     
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    Nice sentiment. Its nice to see a man expressing his feelings. Right or wrong I think its great you and your wife discuss such meaningful things and right or wrong eventually it leads to truth :)
     
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    Hi donnann,
    Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but as Christians see Jesus so do Hindus see Krishna. In the Christian context would that not be "a mission of sorts "of" G-d"?
     
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    No that would be a no.
     
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    its only the christians out of the abrahamics that believe Jesus was divine isnt it ?
     
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    A no on your part a yes on mine. The texts say I have sent you saviors for a reason. Over time there have been many divine beings sent to earth for a purpose. Incarnated into the human body and have always returned back to the divine universe after completion of the purpose. I am one of those people who also believe in universal realities and believe that this has occured throughout the universe as well because this universe is a smaller universe in the image of the divine one. There are saviors sent to each people or should I say incarnated divine beings at certain times to help. I like to use movies as an example to explain what I mean. The movie cocoon to me is simular to an incarnated divine being. The human body you see them in is like the incarnated human body because the human body in its unoneness is like the skin anyway. So it becomes a part of the incarnated being but also a container or vessel. However this vessel must be comparable to its divine self.
     
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    One more thing though if the vessel was to reveal the prehuman self it would be simular but alot bigger , consist of more light and angelic in nature. All divine beings are angelic beings or some says gods or goddesses depends on what terms are used.
     
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    There are jews for jesus. The name JESUS taken back to the jewish comparison is 888 which refers to the last man adam the human body becoming one with its spirit and soul. The christian concept of jesus is that when he took on a human body in the separated condition of non oneness that when that human body rose with his prehuman divine body that the human body was no longer separated. So then you have a divine being with his divine body that was never separated from his soul and spirit but also his human body that became one with the human soul and spirit and the power to use either. Now do the jews believe that the man jesus was this fulfillment of this prophecy..some do.
     
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    oh yeah Jews For Jesus, forgot about them.

    I understand his hebrew name was Yeshua not Jesus and how do any of these relate to 888 and what is the significance of 888 ?
     
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    One more point: say GOD himself did incarnate into a human body. His human body became in the oneness condition where his human spirit soul and body are ONE but hes also GOD with his prehuman BODY that is ONE but always has been. He may appear as a divine human but if he were to stand up you would see his prehuman self very very big. This is somewhat complex.
     
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    To take on a human body you have to incarnate into the human skin. To do this at the point of conception the divine being descends into the egg and is sealed.
     
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    Sorry I should explain what I mean. Picture this. A divine being talking to say GOD that is being sent by the father to earth above a place that conception is going to take place. As soon as the sperm and egg unite the divine being is sent down into the egg and then sealed in it. This is why incarnated beings are always a series of miracles involving the body which are seal openings and bindings. I hope this makes sense to you.
     
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    One more thing this also means the incarnated being also has human parents as well.
     
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    Probably the reference is to the "gematria", an ancient system of alphabetic numberals in which the letters are divided into three series of nine each, standing for 1-9, 10-90, 100-900 (extra letters are needed to bring the set up to 27). "Yeshua" was yod-shin-waw-'ayin = 10+300+6+70 = 386. I don't know what spelling is used to get "888" out of it.

    EDIT: got it. Greek was "Iehsous" iota-eta-sigma-omicron-upsilon-sigma = 10+8+200+70+400+200
     
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    888 is a cubic number representing the oneness of the body soul and spirit. In jewish studies all the cubic numbers represent something good in the processes even 666. This is why the name JESUS represents this number or is this number meaning the risen man.
     

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