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01-03-2005, 11:26 AM
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Re: 666
Very interesting reading, thanks for sharing.
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01-03-2005, 04:09 PM
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Re: 666
Check this out they are planning to bring out a film stating that Jesus never lived. Some people making a film now called "the beast" to be released on
the 6.6.06 http://www.thebeastmovie.com/
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01-03-2005, 04:17 PM
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I also read somewhere they are making a movie based on The DaVinci Code. Was shocked to hear Tom Hanks was in it (wonder if I read that in this forum). Im not surprised that someones making a movie saying Jesus never lived.. For some reason its easier for some people to think that he never lived than to except his gift of salvation. From a Christian standpoint of course.
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01-03-2005, 06:18 PM
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Re: 666
Dear Faithfulservant
Well there is no doubt that a man called Jesus lived but it is more about which Jesus are we talking about? As there was more then one, historians and scholars now agree that Jesus is a mythical figure made of many different legends.
The Dead Sea Scolls speak of a teacher of righteousness but yet they are written prior to the birth of the Jesus spoken about in the bible and by the church.
All be revealed at the right time in line with the divine plan.
Yes there is two films coming out this year about Jesus and Magdalene, Jimmy Twyman and Neale Donald Walsch are behind the other film.
being love
Sacredstar
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01-04-2005, 11:14 PM
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Re: 666
Seen a few of these "Europe as the beast" websites, but they seemed fueled by general paranoia about Europe. The UN also variously features in these sort of things.
The usual premise behind these sort of mutterings is "America is great and good..." which is why it is other significant powers that get landed as "the beast".
Of course, there are also the converse with the US as "Babylon" - but it;s all about applying general symbolism according to our hopes and fears.
Btw - this may or may not be an interesting additional read for the topic of 666: Isle of Patmos in the year of the world 3825
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01-04-2005, 11:47 PM
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Re: 666
Did you look at the trailer for the film Brian ?
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01-04-2005, 11:50 PM
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It is bit more then hopes and fears Brian the powers that be are pulling out of the US and moving into Europe, China is also selling off the dollar, the markets are very concerned by the activity that is going on.
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01-05-2005, 12:05 AM
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Different interpretations of Revelations I've seen usually focus upon one or two points, but I'm afraid I've not seen anything in the "Europe as the beast" argument that tries to address the general complexity of Revelations as a text.
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01-05-2005, 05:20 PM
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Surely the beast is anywhere control and domination resides.....
Author of Magdalene's Lost Legacy, Symbolic Numbers and the Sacred Union in Christianity by Margaret Starbird talks about 666 in terms of gematria. She says numerous phrases in the NT add up to the cognates of 666. For example 'Wrath of GOD' bears the value of 666 and so does 'Great Wrath'. The Greek word for wonders also reflects 666. She also says that John Michell's brilliant interpretation is the most convincing. In brief, he demonstrates that 666 is the number used throughout the ancient world to refer to the male/solar principle, equivalent to the Taoist Yang. In the Apocalypse, 666 is the number of the 'beast with the ten horns". A horn reflects the archetype of the male triangle, synonymous with the 'blade' -unmitigated power exercised without mercy. The 'beast' is dissociated with his feminine side of his psyche. The raw power of the 666 principle can be appropriated by any totalitarian or represive regime.
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01-06-2005, 09:52 AM
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Re: 666
i've seen something from a knowledgeable kabbalist about europe as not the beast (cos we don't have that) but as gog and magog. i know what he's getting at but i can't share his conclusions, because they rest on the premise that we're in the leadup to the wars of the messiah and i don't buy that. some of his interpretations i think are rather suspect. i'll take it from a prophet but not a rabbi, i don't care how big his beard is.
b'shalom
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01-09-2005, 09:30 PM
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Re: 666
it does say here is wisdom count the number
interesting article.
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01-30-2005, 01:29 PM
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Re: 666
what did you all think of the trailer for the beast movie about Jesus?
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01-31-2005, 07:24 AM
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I wont watch it anymore than I did The Last Temptation of Christ.
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02-02-2005, 12:49 AM
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Re: 666
So how would you feel if the bible was proven to be a complete fake and the Vatican provided all the evidence ?
being love
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