666 - Page 3

pattimax · 04-12-2007, 07:45 PM

If errors arise among Christians, we should set them right; and good men will be careful to suppress errors which rise from mistaking their words and actions. We have a cunning adversary, who watches to do mischief, and will promote errors, even by the words of Scripture. Whatever uncertainty we are in, or whatever mistakes may arise about the time of Christ’s coming, that coming itself is certain. This has been the faith and hope of all Christians, in all ages of the church; it was the faith and hope of the Old Testament saints. All believers shall be gathered together to Christ, to be with him, and to be happy in his presence for ever. We should firmly believe the second coming of Christ; but there was danger lest the Thessalonians, being mistaken as to the time, should question the truth or certainty of the thing itself. False doctrines are like the winds that toss the water to and fro; and they unsettle the minds of men, which are as unstable as water. It is enough for us to know that our Lord will come, and will gather all his saints unto him. A reason why they should not expect the coming of Christ, as at hand, is given. There would be a general falling away first, such as would occasion the rise of antichrist, that man of sin. There have been great disputes who or what is intended by this man of sin and son of perdition. The man of sin not only practices wickedness, but also promotes and commands sin and wickedness in others; and is the son of perdition, because he is devoted to certain destruction, and is the instrument to destroy many others, both in soul and body. As God was in the temple of old, and worshipped there, and is in and with his church now; so the antichrist here mentioned, is a usurper of God’s authority in the Christian church, who claims Divine honors. -- Matthew Henry 2Thessalonians 2:1-4

mee · 04-12-2007, 09:51 PM

Beasts are consistently used in the Bible as symbols of political governments. and the image of the wild beast has the same ways as the
seven-headed wild beast
The Bible says that "to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step." (Jeremiah 10:23) Furthermore, God warns: "Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs."—Psalm 146:3.

pattimax · 04-13-2007, 12:25 AM

What are you saying?

mee · 04-13-2007, 07:53 AM

666 is a mans number
Understanding the meaning of 666, is much more than just solving an intriguing puzzle. Happily, Jehovah God, the very personification of love and the Source of spiritual light, has not kept his servants in the dark on this important matter...............so these following verses is very meaningful.

(Psalm 62:9) Indeed the sons of earthling man are an exhalation, The sons of mankind are a lie. When laid upon the scales they are all together lighter than an exhalation.

(Psalm 118:9) It is better to take refuge in Jehovah Than to trust in nobles.
HOWEVER hard men try to bring peace and security through institutions such as the United Nations, they will never succeed. Why? Because mankind today is not at peace with God, and lasting security can be based only on man’s being at peace with his Creator. (Psalm 46:1-9; 127:1; Isaiah 11:9; 57:21)

17th Angel · 04-13-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pattimax

There is always a cunning adversary that will sit back and quote scripture. Please don't get too specific.

"The devil can cite scripture for his purpose."
W Shakespeare

Rouge47 · 04-13-2007, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22

II Thessalonians 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. well then someone explain to me who paul is talking about then? it seems to me that he is talking about a man here. i understand the whole spirit of the antichrist thing, but come on, now, he is talking about a man here. and also what about the false prophet in revelation? or don't tell me, he is a group of people, too, right? a false prophet is a false prophet, no?

In agreance with 17th's sarcastic question: Yes, I think Paul is talking about Satan. Satan will stand atop the temple in Jerusalem and proclaim himself as the Christ. Of course those who know the truth will easily be able to tell that he is in fact the anti-christ.

The real Christ will then come down after more hell reigning on the Earth and say, "Shut yo mouth up, foo!" And then back-hand Satan. (Okay, I may have paraphrased there...a lot...but I still thought it was funny.)

17th Angel · 04-13-2007, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rouge47

In agreance with 17th's sarcastic question:

It wasn't in a sarcastic way... It was in an "obvious" way...

Rouge47 · 04-13-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

"The devil can cite scripture for his purpose."
W Shakespeare

Quite right 17th. Remember Jesus' trial of temptation in the desert? He showed Satan who's boss.

Rouge47 · 04-13-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

It wasn't in a sarcastic way... It was in an "obvious" way...

It was obvious and funny....

17th Angel · 04-13-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rouge47

Quite right 17th. Remember Jesus' trial of temptation in the desert? He showed Satan who's boss.

Indeed... He did attempt to use scripture to his benefit...

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Originally Posted by Rouge47

It was obvious and funny....

pattimax · 04-13-2007, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Indeed... He did attempt to use scripture to his benefit...

"Do not, as some ungracious pastors do, Show me the steep and thorny way to heaven, Whiles, like a puff'd and reckless libertine, Himself the primrose path of dalliance treads, And recks not his own rede."
~ William Shakespeare
Hamlet

17th Angel · 04-13-2007, 04:02 PM

Impressive

pattimax · 04-13-2007, 04:30 PM

I will view that comment at face value...

17th Angel · 04-13-2007, 04:50 PM

How else could you possibly view it? Always, looking for trouble ain't cha?

pattimax · 04-13-2007, 05:49 PM

Not exactly.
Although...

HONORABLE, adj. Afflicted with an impediment in one's reach. In legislative bodies, it is customary to mention all members as honorable; as, "the honorable gentleman is a scurvy cur."
The Devil’s Dictionary: Ambrose Bierce