Adam to Jesus 4000 years? - Page 3

wil · 12-18-2006, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

Why, I took it right from the Bible Snoop. Average life span was 900 plus years, then after the flood, the life span was shortened to 120 years, then again to three score and 10 (70 years). The last was as of 1400 BCE.

According to scripture, Noah didn't begin constructing the Ark until he was 600 years old.

Now unless you want to say the bible is suspect, well then I can argue that your radio/carbon dating is equally as suspect, and the bible has bee around for a hell of alot longer than current science...

Oh, Q, and how wonderful I felt at the 7th day note. To find out you were just pulling my leg and now you are returning to 4k from Adam to Jesus? 1400 BCE? the great flood and ark allegory? So we are now talking during the bronze age...where we have history of continous civilizations in Asia, South America, England, Europe, and Africa...during that time?

Why is it that scientific dating methods are suspect unless they prove the age of biblical items?

Quahom1 · 12-18-2006, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wil

Oh, Q, and how wonderful I felt at the 7th day note. To find out you were just pulling my leg and now you are returning to 4k from Adam to Jesus? 1400 BCE? the great flood and ark allegory? So we are now talking during the bronze age...where we have history of continous civilizations in Asia, South America, England, Europe, and Africa...during that time?

Why is it that scientific dating methods are suspect unless they prove the age of biblical items?

I meant what I said. God in my opinion is still resting...

just because it was written 4000 years ago doesn't mean it happened 4000 years ago...sheesh (never heard of bards before?)

Quahom1 · 12-18-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by wil

Oh, Q, and how wonderful I felt at the 7th day note. To find out you were just pulling my leg and now you are returning to 4k from Adam to Jesus? 1400 BCE? the great flood and ark allegory? So we are now talking during the bronze age...where we have history of continous civilizations in Asia, South America, England, Europe, and Africa...during that time?

Why is it that scientific dating methods are suspect unless they prove the age of biblical items?

Gonna let you in on a little secret Wil. Time to the Irish is nothing. Places are everything. You say a year, he says 10 years, I say "Where?" That's how it works.

Don't take offense, please. None was meant.

aburaees · 12-18-2006, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wil

Why is it that scientific dating methods are suspect unless they prove the age of biblical items?

If I remember correctly, these scientific dating methods rely on using the speed of light c as a constant, however...

There is evidence to suggest that the speed of light has changed over time, therefore any equation using the speed of light as a constant is going to yield suspect results.

BlaznFattyz · 12-18-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Snoopy

...(using radiometric age dating)...

religion aside, that is not verifiable since man cannot go back in time; so, i'm skeptical, maybe cuz man has been known to be wrong before on their scientific theories or as some call educated guesses.

Snoopy · 12-18-2006, 09:23 PM

Hi,

The best method devised thus far by man for the elucidation of objective reality is the scientific method. This may not be appropriate for religious beliefs but it is certainly more reliable than any alternatives for examination of the nature of the universe (eg age of the Earth).

(Joshua I know I bowed out. Forgive me, for I am weak...)

s.

Faithfulservant · 12-18-2006, 11:56 PM

God didnt create Adam and Eve as babies.. why does everyone assume He had to create the earth as a baby..

BlaznFattyz · 12-19-2006, 01:37 AM

perhaps the act of creation gives carbon dating a false reading because it supernaturally speeds up events to give us the world and the universe in its completeness.

China Cat Sunflower · 12-19-2006, 01:46 AM

So, here's my question: Isn't it true that for Adam and Eve to literally be the parents of the human race there had to be mother-son or father-daughter sex going on? Or was it brother-sister sex?

Chris

moseslmpg · 12-19-2006, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

God didnt create Adam and Eve as babies.. why does everyone assume He had to create the earth as a baby..

Are you arguing for the omphalos hypothesis?

And I believe it was siblings haveing sex, as well as the "sons of god," whoever you think they are.

China Cat Sunflower · 12-19-2006, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

God didnt create Adam and Eve as babies.. why does everyone assume He had to create the earth as a baby..

Well, the fact that there was no sun, moon, or stars kinda suggests that there was no solar system doesn't it?

Chris

wil · 12-19-2006, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

Why, I took it right from the Bible Snoop. Average life span was 900 plus years, then after the flood, the life span was shortened to 120 years, then again to three score and 10 (70 years). The last was as of 1400 BCE.

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

Gonna let you in on a little secret Wil. Time to the Irish is nothing. Places are everything. You say a year, he says 10 years, I say "Where?" That's how it works.

Don't take offense, please. None was meant.

No offense Q, I just have a hard time keeping up, in one post you stretch the 7 days, a few later you state 1400 BCE quite clearly, a few later time means nothing...

I just can't decide which of the three posts you are standing on...hard for me to discuss when the pendelum sways so much...

Not to worry on offense...I am here to learn, expand my mind and my shoulders...

Dor · 12-19-2006, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wil

I think we all know that the earth is older than 7,000 years, I find it interesting that people try to add allegory to metaphor and insist it comes out fact.

No, I know that God made Adam as a fully grown man...so God perhaps could have nade a fully grown planet. He is sovereign. His rules not ours.

Quahom1 · 12-19-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wil

No offense Q, I just have a hard time keeping up, in one post you stretch the 7 days, a few later you state 1400 BCE quite clearly, a few later time means nothing...

I just can't decide which of the three posts you are standing on...hard for me to discuss when the pendelum sways so much...

Not to worry on offense...I am here to learn, expand my mind and my shoulders...

That's because there are two types of time to contend with in the Bible. Man's time and God's time apparently are very different. One is linear, while the other is extra-linear.

(2 Pet 3:8 NKJV) “But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”

BlaznFattyz · 12-19-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

That's because there are two types of time to contend with in the Bible. Man's time and God's time apparently are very different. One is linear, while the other is extra-linear.

(2 Pet 3:8 NKJV) “But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”

i personally read that as poetic... not exactly 1:1000 but more of a beautiful explanation that man's time (limited) is not god's time (limitless), or like you said "One is linear, while the other is extra-linear.".