Alternative christian sects section? - Page 2

Terrence · 10-18-2006, 07:59 PM

Only in America. Saying that you are a Christian in some other countries would cause others to assume you actually love and live for Jesus and it may mean your life. Thank God for America, huh? People here can use the name "Christian" to make gain and be rich. Its so ironic to me.

In Jesus,

Terrence

wil · 10-18-2006, 08:29 PM

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Only in America. Saying that you are a Christian in some other countries would cause others to assume you actually love and live for Jesus and it may mean your life....

Hmmm...I think that same assumption is made here as well...and for the most part is accurate.

mee · 10-18-2006, 11:57 PM

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Jesus said this about people who would follow him, "Dont be suprise if the world hates you. A servant is not greater than his master. They hated and persecuted me and they will do the same to you." Listen, I'm being honest when I say this: If your Christianty causes you to be loved by the world and not set apart, you are not a Christian or loved by God. God calls His people out of the world and says, "Love not the world or the things of it. For if you love the world, the love of the Father is not in you and you make yourself an enemy of God." God is calling people to be holy as He is Holy.

well according to this ,JW must be christians then.

China Cat Sunflower · 10-19-2006, 12:04 AM

Groan...

Maybe the main Christianity section should be for Catholics only, and not all of you apostate, alternative, new-agey Protestants.

As I said on another thread, Christian isn't just a religion, it's also a general ethnicity. There's a whole universe of Christian thought, practice, and culture, and it's evolving and changing all the time. There is a desperate need for a broad dialog between all the factions and those on the fringes, not to codify and standardize, but to learn to listen and share. People are crying out for this everywhere you turn. The solution is not to form a consensus on where to erect a fence, but to tear down the fences and walls.

Chris

Terrence · 10-19-2006, 02:03 AM

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well according to this ,JW must be christians then.

Thats what my friend who is a JW says. I tell him that he is a good sinner who is working his way to God without relying on Jesus' finished works on the cross. He seems to think, as all other JWs do, that you have to add to what Jesus already did. Moreover, he, as all other JWs do, preach another gospel...one of works and not one of faith. Dont assume because you have some oppossition and get some persecution, you are a Chrisitan. Real brothers and sisters of the faith get torchered and murdered for Jesus. You get talked about and get doors slamed in your faces early mornings. Thats hardly persecution.

juantoo3 · 10-19-2006, 02:57 AM

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Groan...

...Christian isn't just a religion, it's also a general ethnicity. There's a whole universe of Christian thought, practice, and culture, and it's evolving and changing all the time. There is a desperate need for a broad dialog between all the factions and those on the fringes, not to codify and standardize, but to learn to listen and share. People are crying out for this everywhere you turn. The solution is not to form a consensus on where to erect a fence, but to tear down the fences and walls.

Chris

I couldn't agree more.

2c

Dor · 10-19-2006, 04:08 AM

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

Jesus knew that the Gospel, in some cases, would cause some division.
Many react with hostility to the Gospel, not because Christ's teachings promote hostility but because they are controversial.
Jesus was not suggesting that he came to bring turmoil but it would be an effect of his teachings in some instances.
It will always be that way cause some people will always prefer spiritual darkness to the light of Christ.
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

lunamoth · 10-19-2006, 04:14 AM

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Groan...

Maybe the main Christianity section should be for Catholics only, and not all of you apostate, alternative, new-agey Protestants.

As I said on another thread, Christian isn't just a religion, it's also a general ethnicity. There's a whole universe of Christian thought, practice, and culture, and it's evolving and changing all the time. There is a desperate need for a broad dialog between all the factions and those on the fringes, not to codify and standardize, but to learn to listen and share. People are crying out for this everywhere you turn. The solution is not to form a consensus on where to erect a fence, but to tear down the fences and walls.

Chris

Chris, I think you need another word besides enthnicity here, but that aside...

AMEN!

luna

China Cat Sunflower · 10-19-2006, 04:50 AM

Just one more thing and I'll let this go. A lot of people have hurt feelings and and a chip on their shoulder from feeling marginalized. If we're ever going to have that big tent dialog it should be understood that there are going to be those who need to vent and get things off their chest. It's just part of the healing process. I'm talking about myself here as much as anyone else. So, at some point we're going to just have to let that happen before we can all settle down and start communicating like adults. It's bound to be a little messy and uncomfortable, but we need to let it happen.

Chris

BlaznFattyz · 10-19-2006, 06:02 AM

well, the forum in itself is the broad dialogue, but as you see there are respected divisions within it.

China Cat Sunflower · 10-19-2006, 06:19 AM

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well, the forum in itself is the broad dialogue, but as you see there are respected divisions within it.

Seperate but equal?

Chris

aburaees · 10-19-2006, 07:26 AM

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Real brothers and sisters of the faith get torchered and murdered for Jesus. You get talked about and get doors slamed in your faces early mornings. Thats hardly persecution.

Are you aware that Jehovah's Witnesses were sent to concentration camps in Nazi Germany, simply for being what they were? What you just said only applies to the Western nations... in other countries across the world they suffer the same persecution that you would.

moseslmpg · 10-19-2006, 06:06 PM

So do we have a verdict? Alternative section is go?

lunamoth · 10-19-2006, 06:44 PM

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So do we have a verdict? Alternative section is go?

I think that creating such a section would require overall revamping of much of the top part of the board. Also, while it is fine to discuss this it's not really up to the membership to 'decide' and change the structure of the forum. Brian has a forum for feedback and suggestions. I would say that you need to take this up with him.

2c,
luna

lunamoth · 10-19-2006, 06:46 PM

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I think that creating such a section would require overall revamping of much of the top part of the board. Also, while it is fine to discuss this it's not really up to the membership to 'decide' and change the structure of the forum. Brian has a forum for feedback and suggestions. I would say that you need to take this up with him.

2c,
luna

Also, perhaps this thread would be more appropriate in the feedback forum?

luna