Alternative christian sects section? - Page 6

Quahom1 · 10-22-2006, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

i see it like a radio station when two channels collide and you can't really enjoy one or the other-- it becomes incoherent. just respectable division of channels so the music could be heard on the station you happen to be on. we are equal in the eyes of god, no one is saying one christian is worth more than another, strictly about keeping posts in the right place so as not to cause arguments over changed, added, or subtracted doctrine. people can freely jump to mormon or jw or lds or mainstream christianity forum, as an example, but to let one group sidetrack conversation with a book that has nothing to do with the other groups conversation, has caused many arguments (not dialogue) here i have noticed. $.02.

Yes, you are correct. However using your radio frequency concept, there is the ability to "filter" one in order to hear the other. But that is up to the "listener".

Quahom1 · 10-22-2006, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

The best thing you can do for someone is pray..

I wanted to add that Good works is the fruit of faith.. All things bear fruit...good or bad...if your life belongs to Christ then you will do works.. you seek to please your Lord and you ask Him to put you to work.. praying for others more than yourself is the sign of spiritual maturity...Its a baby step situation.. you start off trying to become a better person and as you achieve this God molds you into someone He will work through for His glory and edification and you will become that better person because you are recreated into the image of the living God.

I love how my pastor puts it... putting the "Old Man" to rest because we are a new creation in Christ.

The "old man" I presume is us? I look forward to being "new" again (just not living the same old life) lol

cyberpi · 10-22-2006, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

No. Christ was not a Christian. He is the way. A Christian is defined by the person who follows Christ (or attempts to).

What is the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite or Sufi? And why?

I know the answers, so the question is as rhetorical as the difference between a liberal Christian and a conservative Christian. One makes allowances for human behavior that the other refuses to.

Hmmm... Christ (pbuh) not a Christian? Lead not by example? The Lord is not thy servant? Oh, how I disagree with your sentence, "Christ was not a Christian". Perhaps it is a difference over the definition of 'defined'. I don't think a Christian can define all his days. It goes against the whole definition of 'Faith' as I know it... like that of being a servant.

Faithfulservant · 10-22-2006, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

The "old man" I presume is us? I look forward to being "new" again (just not living the same old life) lol

Nah the old man is us before Christ.

The worldly fleshly part of us.

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

Dor · 10-22-2006, 02:47 AM

Romans7:24 O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 I thank God--through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.

I end up in a fight with my wretched self quite often.

Prober · 10-22-2006, 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

People who want peace and tranquility get along with each other because that's the nature of being the ultimate human.

There is no such thing as an alternative Christian. Christians are known by the fruit they bear, not by their title.

There is a them, and an us in this world, sadly enough.

Jesus wants total compliance with the will of God. No deviation, no exceptions. What the will of God is, is now the arguement.

He speaks to all according to their capacity and those who speak of him are recognized by their speech.

Prober · 10-22-2006, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

Nah the old man is us before Christ.

The worldly fleshly part of us.

Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

Amen! We walk forward, reborn daily, fresh, forgiven and forgiving.

BlaznFattyz · 10-22-2006, 03:49 AM

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Amen! We walk forward, reborn daily, fresh, forgiven and forgiving.

that sure sounds a lot better than the mantra that we are filthy rags.

Prober · 10-22-2006, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

that sure sounds a lot better than the mantra that we are filthy rags.

Quahom1 · 10-22-2006, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberpi

Hmmm... Christ (pbuh) not a Christian? Lead not by example? The Lord is not thy servant? Oh, how I disagree with your sentence, "Christ was not a Christian". Perhaps it is a difference over the definition of 'defined'. I don't think a Christian can define all his days. It goes against the whole definition of 'Faith' as I know it... like that of being a servant.

Jesus was a Jew...where have you been? I thought everyone of any kind of knowledge knew that.

care less how you think of my version of Christ (pbuh). lol You insult, deliberately... And it is not appreciated.

cyberpi · 10-22-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

Jesus was a Jew...where have you been? I thought everyone of any kind of knowledge knew that.

care less how you think of my version of Christ (pbuh). lol You insult, deliberately... And it is not appreciated.

I'm sorry, but if anyone has been wrongly insulted here it has been Jesus Christ (pbuh). How many people on this thread think or say that Jesus Christ was NOT a Christian? How many people think Jesus taught out of Judaism rather than something new from God (swt)? How many people think Jesus was a hypocrite, saying one thing and doing another? It begs for what defines a Christian, but to have drawn such strong ethnocentric lines in the mind between a Jew and a Christian as to say Jesus Christ (pbuh) was NOT a Christian... simply defies me.

John 13:16 I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.
John 15:20 Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.
John 3:2 Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

How many people have drawn such solid ethnocentric lines in their minds between differences in religions to deny that Jesus Christ was a Christian? If Jesus (pbuh) or God (swt) did NOT define Christianity for anyone, then who did?

Faithfulservant · 10-22-2006, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberpi

I'm sorry, but if anyone has been wrongly insulted here it has been Jesus Christ (pbuh). How many people on this thread think or say that Jesus Christ was NOT a Christian? How many people think Jesus taught out of Judaism rather than something new from God (swt)? How many people think Jesus was a hypocrite, saying one thing and doing another? It begs for what defines a Christian, but to have drawn such strong ethnocentric lines in the mind between a Jew and a Christian as to say Jesus Christ (pbuh) was NOT a Christian... simply defies me.

John 13:16 I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.
John 15:20 Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.
John 3:2 Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

How many people have drawn such solid ethnocentric lines in their minds between differences in religions to deny that Jesus Christ was a Christian? If Jesus (pbuh) or God (swt) did NOT define Christianity for anyone, then who did?

Jesus was a jew and He taught from the same scripture that the Jews learned from.There was nothing new other than His purpose on Earth and the OT was talking about that since the beginning...The first Christians were His disciples.They defined it because they walked in Christs steps.. They learned that through Him there is a personal relationship with God they learned by the Spirit that we are walking dead people without Jesus Christ... Jesus is our example of what We as Christians are supposed to be in our actions in our thoughts in our words... He is God in the flesh... He doesnt follow in the steps of Himself..

Now stop being rude, cyberpi. You can discuss without being provoking.

Dor · 10-22-2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberpi

I'm sorry, but if anyone has been wrongly insulted here it has been Jesus Christ (pbuh). How many people on this thread think or say that Jesus Christ was NOT a Christian? How many people think Jesus taught out of Judaism rather than something new from God (swt)? How many people think Jesus was a hypocrite, saying one thing and doing another? It begs for what defines a Christian, but to have drawn such strong ethnocentric lines in the mind between a Jew and a Christian as to say Jesus Christ (pbuh) was NOT a Christian... simply defies me.

John 13:16 I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.
John 15:20 Remember the words I spoke to you: 'No servant is greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also.
John 3:2 Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

How many people have drawn such solid ethnocentric lines in their minds between differences in religions to deny that Jesus Christ was a Christian? If Jesus (pbuh) or God (swt) did NOT define Christianity for anyone, then who did?

Well lets see Mary....Jewish woman.
God he was not Jewish but Joseph was.
Jesus was Jewish, was circumcised, went to the Temple and synangoue(sp) from a young age and taught at them.
Hell your own quote showed that John 3:2 who calls their teachers Rabbi.

If anyone offends Jesus it is all the people who keep discounting who he really was!

cyberpi · 10-22-2006, 03:17 PM

So who says that a person can not be a Jew and a Christian... besides Hitler is there anyone? Anyone here?

Dor · 10-22-2006, 03:23 PM

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So who says that a person can not be a Jew and a Christian... besides Hitler is there anyone? Anyone here?

Wll Bananabrain comes to mind.