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03-08-2005, 09:46 PM
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What was the question?
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Originally Posted by Vajradhara
then present some evidence that refutes the evidence presented so far.
what it really looks like, postmaster, is that you are simply making these assertions based on nationalistic feelings.. without any substance to support your assertions.
whilst you can believe any of this as much as you want, the facts belie your statements, it would appear.
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Weeeeel,
It also means OK, for Oklahomha. That was something back in the late 1850s.
I can present an abundance of evidence pertaining to that. Doesn't mean OK originated in Oklahomha though, just that it proliferated in America because of it.
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03-08-2005, 10:22 PM
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The funny thing is if you ask a dictionary what the word ok means
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- Agreeable; acceptable: Was everything OK with your stay?
- Agreeable; acceptable: Was everything OK with your stay?
- Satisfactory; good: an OK fellow.
- Not excellent and not poor; mediocre: made an OK presentation.
- In proper or satisfactory operational or working order: Is the battery OK?
- Correct: That answer is OK.
- Uninjured; safe: The skier fell but was OK.
- Fairly healthy; well: Thanks to the medicine, the patient was OK.
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It all points to "All good" which in Greek is Ola Kala. Coincidence maybe, maybe too much.
http://www.olakala.ca/
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re: Origin of OK 11/29/2004 9:43 AM Daniel Moth
Actually that is incorrect. OK is short for "Ola Kala" which literally means "all good" which in other words means "all is good"...OK!
"Ola Kala", or OK for short, was a nautical message exchanged at sea by Greeks [it is still used today in Greece as a question/answer]
- Ola Kala?
-Ola Kala!
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http://www.geekswithblogs.net/tariq/.../29/16392.aspx
The worlds most popular word is Greek of origin.
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03-08-2005, 10:40 PM
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Selective quoting, Postmaster? The site you quote for the dictionary definition does say that... then goes on as follows:
Word History: OK is a quintessentially American term that has spread from English to many other languages. ...
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=OK
The Oxford Dictionary folks have a detailed discussion at
http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexper...wordorigins/ok
which specifically mentions your theory, and debunks it. (Along with the Scot Och Aye and the Chocktaw Indian Oke)
Oh and for more, see Cecil Adam's Straight Dope page at
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_250
Last edited by brucegdc; 03-08-2005 at 10:43 PM.
Reason: added reference to straight dope
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03-08-2005, 11:06 PM
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Of course it's selective quoting, it's no conspiracy  I know you are all people with a brain
However the word ok just like anything else will mean different things to different people and since I'm trying to hellenise people thought I'd pull this theory off
I'll add some interesting facts (unless proven wrong)
Brutus of who was a Greek Roman of Trojan descent, probably why Britain is called Britain today because he came and invaded the Celts of (who the Greeks named)  The you have Sctoland which Scot literally translate in Greek Dark. And England, Eng and Anglo liertally translate from the Greek meaning Angle.
Europenas all share a lot in common  Infact all European countries and nations have took influence off the Greeks, even the word European is Greek.
I've been watching too much my big fat greek wedding
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03-08-2005, 11:16 PM
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What was the question?
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Re: American Idiot
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Of course it's selective quoting, it's no conspiracy  I know you are all people with a brain
However the word ok just like anything else will mean different things to different people and since I'm trying to hellenise people thought I'd pull this theory off 
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So cool, that OK, came from the Greeks. BUT, it was (and is) used by the AMERICANS. Don't that drive people nuts? It is now an American moniker...
OK!. American says that, and most people understand that the American just acknowledged something. Tell me I am wrong... OK?
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03-08-2005, 11:25 PM
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So when someone asks how you are, you say OK because you just acknowledged something? Doesn't make sense
But it does make sense if you say the word OK means all good. If you accept this it's the first step to Hellenisation lol.
EVERYTHING IN THE WEST CAN BE TRACED BACK TO GREECE. That’s where we all came from, and 10 million Greeks are still there, with blood lines of Alexander the Great, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Hypocrites, Zenon, pure pioneers, the list is endless
*Just messing btw*
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03-08-2005, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Postmaster
so when someone asks how you are, you say OK because you just acknowledged something? Doesn't make sense
But it does make sense if you say the word OK means all good. If you accept this it's the first step to Hellenisation  lol.
EVERYTHING IN THE WEST CAN BE TRACED BACK TO GREECE.
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No, if asked how I am and I am actually doing fine, or if I don't want you to know how I feel, I say I'm OK. Verrry Greek. Oh my, Americans acting like Greeks...
Leave me alone, before I am no longer OK...in the truest Greek sense of the moniker.
Does that make sense to you?
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03-08-2005, 11:48 PM
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Weeeeel,
It also means OK, for Oklahomha. That was something back in the late 1850s.
I can present an abundance of evidence pertaining to that. Doesn't mean OK originated in Oklahomha though, just that it proliferated in America because of it.
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are you sure that it's not a state abbreviation that is spelt OK and not, like the vernacular, O.K. ?
i'm thinking that these are fairly specific differences in English.
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03-08-2005, 11:51 PM
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so when someone asks how your parents are you say they are fine!? And not OK (All good). I've been speaking wrong all this time
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03-09-2005, 01:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Postmaster
so when someone asks how your parents are you say they are fine!? And not OK (All good). I've been speaking wrong all this time 
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In America, to be asked "how are you?" and to respond "OK", is acceptible vernacular.
Impliying or inferring that Americans are dumm because of that, is not so wise Post. It is what we do...and have done it for over 100 years...
for example, right now, I'm not feeling OK...(has nothing to do with the Greek language).
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03-13-2005, 02:34 PM
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03-14-2005, 12:10 PM
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In the Middle East we have people kill themselves and others for a reason and in the USA we have them kill themselves and others for no reason.
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03-14-2005, 12:35 PM
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http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4213841
Gee, looks like it happens in Cyprus too. Guess Cypriots are human after all...
(by the way "this sort of thing just doesn't happen here" is common in these reports - even in high murder rate areas)....
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03-14-2005, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by brucegdc
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=4213841
Gee, looks like it happens in Cyprus too. Guess Cypriots are human after all...
(by the way "this sort of thing just doesn't happen here" is common in these reports - even in high murder rate areas)....
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Don't video tape and publish our intentions on a regular basis before hand either. And no one offers the family $25,000.00 to have a member commit murder/suicide. Perhaps that is why we don't know the reason for the action in Wisconsin...yet.
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03-14-2005, 02:23 PM
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Gee, looks like it happens in Cyprus too. Guess Cypriots are human after all...
(by the way "this sort of thing just doesn't happen here" is common in these reports - even in high murder rate areas)...
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Ignorance, ignorance. That happened in Northern Cyprus, do you ever remember the Turkish invasion 30 years ago!? The one that know one came to our help and the poor Greeks lost 38% of Cyprus? The one where Britain stoped Greece from coming to our help? Like I said before Turkey has 38% of Cyprus and 80% of Viloent criome comes from up there. The rest of the violent crime in Cyprus is caused by holiday makers like the British and Germans that strip nacked on boats and snort cocaine.
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The couple’s home in Lapta, northern Cyprus, was obscured by trees and and plants so it could not be seen from the road.
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You know what the British say what goes around comes around. And the very Turks you put up to kill thousands of Greeks and kick them out there houses are doing the same things to you  I don't recommend anyone buy a house or even visit the North of Cyprus not even you brucegdc.  Only the Republic of Cyprus is in the EU and recognised internationally. However the North of Cyprus isn't recognised by any other country but Turkey.
Here is something for the uninformed.

I'm from a beautiful village outside Larnaca. Heaven on earth.
BARBARIANS
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