Awareness

[Paladin]

Can you be that which you perceive?

[Francis king]

no.

[wil]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Can you be that which you perceive?

Trying to remember the line.

We are not what we think, what we think we are.

We are what we perceive, but we also are what others perceive, as perception is reality in the moment.

[Dawud]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Can you be that which you perceive?

No, I don't think so. I don't think we're anything that we perceive, and yet all our awareness is perception... Does that make us nothing? No, otherwise we wouldn't be aware of anything. So are we simply awareness? I'm aware of my thoughts, but I'm not my thoughts... I build thoughts as a builder builds buildings. Absolute existence, however, is strictly confined to God. I'm like a thought of God, I belong to God, but He is much greater, just as I'm greater than one of my thoughts, God is so much greater than any of us. We're totally dependent on God for our existence, but God doesn't need any of us. He created us because He loved our creation... not of necessity, but of love.

[17th Angel]

per·ceive
Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[per-seev]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–verb (used with object), -ceived, -ceiv·ing. 1.to become aware of, know, or identify by means of the senses: I perceived an object looming through the mist. 2.to recognize, discern, envision, or understand: I perceive a note of sarcasm in your voice. This is a nice idea but I perceive difficulties in putting it into practice.
[Origin: 1250–1300; ME perceiven < AF *perceivre, for perçoivre < L percipere to lay hold of, grasp, equiv. to per- per- + -cipere, comb. form of capere to take]
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Yes.

[greymare]

I am

[Francis king]

yes, u perceive the object, but you do not become the object...

so, no, still

[dauer]

At least in part, I think so.

[DrFree]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Can you be that which you perceive?

I am one of the things I perceive.
You are one of the things I perceive.
I am more than what I perceive about myself.
You are more than what I perceive about you.
I am more than the totality of my perceiving.
You are more than the totality of your perceiving.

Namiste,
Dr Free

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Can you be that which you perceive?

If you are what you perceive, then what happens when you go to sleep?

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Can you be that which you perceive?

Depends on one's POV.

s.

[Dawud]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

If you are what you perceive, then what happens when you go to sleep?

Dreams?

Here are some examples of what I'm not... I'm not my eyes, I'm not my ears, I'm not my sight or hearing. I'm not my fingers, I'm not my arms. I'm not my body. I'm not my brain or my heart. I use all of those, but I'm not those. The soul is the sun by which the body is illumined.

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Dawud

Dreams?

Here are some examples of what I'm not... I'm not my eyes, I'm not my ears, I'm not my sight or hearing. I'm not my fingers, I'm not my arms. I'm not my body. I'm not my brain or my heart. I use all of those, but I'm not those. The soul is the sun by which the body is illumined.

Almost exactly like this quote.....

YouTube - Scientology Video: The Parts of Man

You sure about Scientology not having agreement with Baha'i?

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

If you are what you perceive, then what happens when you go to sleep?

Sort of a cross between me and what I will one day forever be. Dead to the world

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

If you are what you perceive, then what happens when you go to sleep?

Exactly!
Be careful though, this line of inquiry could mean the end of all machinations, and we all know that's not what the human race wants.