BBC Panorama on Scientology - Page 2

Dondi · 05-16-2007, 02:27 PM

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Such as one was (not word for word); Would you bother someone when they are trying to finnish the last answer on a crossword?

If I knew the answer, I would. Just to peeve them off after working so hard on it on their own. I guess I wouldn't make a good Scientologist, huh?

17th Angel · 05-16-2007, 02:32 PM

No... You seem very depressed!!! You best pop in with a $50.00 fee to get your energy levels read!

Dondi · 05-16-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

No... You seem very depressed!!! You best pop in with a $50.00 fee to get your energy levels read!

Will they be able to "clear" me?

Vajradhara · 05-16-2007, 03:50 PM

No, Dondi, they won't.

Not even Lafayette Ron Hubbard was able to get "clear"... he became what they call an "Operating Thetan" though i have read that since Miscavage took over they have 're-interpeted' certain things and determined that Hubbard was the only one that was "clear".

but seriously.. how can any rational being believe that space aliens flew here on DC-10's and trapped alien souls under the volcanos in Hawaii? that strains credulity.

metta,

~v

Postmaster · 05-16-2007, 04:01 PM

Vajradhara, although I don't approve of Scientology the funny thing is all religions believe in something supernatural, just a thought. End of the day the consitution of America grants them rights.. lol. Are we picking on them the same way they pick on there ex members? If anyone is silly enough to join them then they deserve to. They have branded the BBC terrorists that is funny, cause they might well have a point lol.. So ironic.

17th Angel · 05-16-2007, 04:36 PM

For four installments of $50.00 they'll for sure give it a good try...

Francis king · 05-16-2007, 05:47 PM

cheers for the link- I missed the show, and was gutted, so am now happy...

I watched the report, was brilliant, but wasn't telling me anything new-many religious cults operate in this way- reprogramming, brainwashing, forcing ppl to discconnect from their families, draining them financially...

I find it difficult to believe ppl actually fall for this kind of rubbish... how very silly and ignorant ppl are... it's almost like they deserve to be played for being such stupid fools...

ppl may mock xtianity, buddhism, Islam, but as far as I know there's no membership fee's involved...

found it hilarious that one investigator of Scientology now has an 8 page pdf on him online, and they've even traced bk to when he was a child getting counselling! ... lol... and the ppl coming up to Sweeney at the outdoors bash and berating him..? lol... again, pure cult tactics...

thetons...lol...

yes, of course, we all have magical beliefs, supernatural origins for our faiths, but they follow prescribed patterns... our messiahs never wanted our money- they just wanted to make sure we all were a little better off than we were previously.. that's all... they don't rig u up to a lie detection machine and use the info about u later (oh, hang on- mde. blavatsky used to collect info on her org's members too, dontya know... but thats another thread, right..?)

ur not serious, 17th, about once being a JW..?

lol

Postmaster · 05-16-2007, 06:48 PM

How about money for blessings Francis? Like the Catholics did. They even used to steal saints tombs so that tourism would boost where they were taken to. Saint Nickolas was never burried in Bari, think he was in Alexandria. During a recession afew saliors decided to bring him over.

Dondi · 05-16-2007, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vajradhara

No, Dondi, they won't.

Not even Lafayette Ron Hubbard was able to get "clear"... he became what they call an "Operating Thetan" though i have read that since Miscavage took over they have 're-interpeted' certain things and determined that Hubbard was the only one that was "clear".

but seriously.. how can any rational being believe that space aliens flew here on DC-10's and trapped alien souls under the volcanos in Hawaii? that strains credulity.

metta,

~v

Hope you don't think I was serious, V. I can't even clear my head after an algebra test.

17th Angel · 05-17-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Francis king

ur not serious, 17th, about once being a JW..?

lol

Who'd of thought it eh? For over two years I was.... One of them!! *dun dun dun*

What's with the "lol"? lol..... I wasn't always a demented killing psychopathic satanic sex kitten.

Stop.... Hammer time!

Dondi · 05-17-2007, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Who'd of thought it eh? For over two years I was.... One of them!! *dun dun dun*

What's with the "lol"? lol..... I wasn't always a demented killing psychopathic satanic sex kitten.

Stop.... Hammer time!

Would you contribute your experience as a JW to have had a major negative impact on your distain for religion and God now?

17th Angel · 05-17-2007, 01:18 PM

It left a taste in my mouth aye.

To disassociate, from “the world” wasn’t my cup of tea…. Now if you look into that statement MORE…. The family that fed me, clothed me, housed me, loved me, protected me, raised me, educated me... I have to cut myself off from them? They are all going to have a fantastic Christmas! Everyone is coming over, great meal, song and dances, games, present giving out of LOVE….. Oh no, sorry I can’t come… Because this group of people say it is wrong…

My mothers partner… Who showered me in money, confidence, advice and strength… But not just what he did for me, he took my mother in and took care of us.. I cannot buy him a birthday gift out of love, respect and appreciation? Oh hell no, that is soooo wrong! Do not buy him a gift!

Then all KEY factors of life they miss…. (Of course this is where Mee charges in and copy and pastes some watchtower babble….) accepting others, specially your own freaking family, rejoice be happy live the life you have…. Just so damn restricted, closed minded crap I know of… They demanded I burnt…. Burnt all books I had that had nothing to do with god… All my satanic books and literature… And anything that was not of god… Why? So I don’t have an open mind and a varied knowledge of “things”…. They constantly added “friendly” pressure for me to quit smoking…. To quit watching most of my DVD’s… To quit listening to certain music. To cut my hair. To shave. To disassociate with my best (and only friend.) to disassociate with my own blood (family members) To go to their group studies (Tuesday) To go to their door to door classes (Thursday) to go door to door (Saturday) to go to the hall (Sunday) to go to their “drama acting” (Mondays) Oh hell, sure… I will give up… Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday….. AND! To go around for a friendly book read with a meal.... On friday Evening... Leaving me? OH! A FREAKING DAY with my friends and family….. Well not a day is it… After you take away sleep and work. But then again… You don’t want me being with them…. Or playing my games or anything I ENJOY…. They attempted to crush me, but I am bigger… And stronger than them, my will will prevail. I saw it happen to this young woman… And she ate it up… And she is like a shell now… So I have a taste left in my mouth how some group tried to take control over me…. Once I flipped on them, they left me alone…. I think for their health and my freedom, that is wise to avoid me.

At first I was fine... I stated I was there to just learn and understand their ways... Nothing more... But way too much of this "Friendly" and "shame on you" pressure was put on me, I hate being pressed. So to being with it's all smiles and hand shakes and after awhile you HAVE to be like them.... They say individuality is welcome... But, lol it's not... "OH! But on the Sunday service you have a chance to put your hand up and say what you think!" Oh you mean what you have been made to think from all your little books? I see... Wow how indvidual... You get to really voice... Their... I mean Your, opinion.

Francis king · 05-17-2007, 01:26 PM

to me its comical that someone like urself could have ever joined their gang, even if u were a little younger... lol...

was it the outfits that attracted u, 17th?

a penchance for polyester?

17th Angel · 05-17-2007, 01:30 PM

Mystery... I wanted to know more about them... Maybe they were a more "dark" force than they truly seemed..... And there uhm, was quite an attractive one...

Tao_Equus · 05-17-2007, 01:37 PM

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Mystery... I wanted to know more about them... Maybe they were a more "dark" force than they truly seemed..... And there uhm, was quite an attractive one...

Rfpmsl.... I knew it.....a girl!!!