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05-17-2007, 02:29 PM
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Re: BBC Panorama on Scientology
It's actually Spawn..... But yeah, Latex is good... I have the ass for it...
  from a different angle... You can see he is different! |
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05-17-2007, 03:54 PM
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That is horrible, 17th. I understand you a bit better now. So you pretty much rebelled...hard. And basically all that pretty much ruined any taste for anything spiritual, even to the point of atheism? Man, I'm so sorry you've been wronged like that, 17th. I can understand your distain for religion, organized or not. I wish you could see through all that and find that true spirituality that shows you real love and acceptance. |
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05-17-2007, 03:57 PM
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There is indeed that which can be added to the account of why I am how I am... Freedom is all I have... I don't want that taken away from me.
But also don't want to go into it... But Subliminally I believe I am not good enough to be a person of your god.  So Indeed they may put pressure on to some.... Or most ex memebers... In these type of organisations... But, I guess even those that are strong enough or crazy enough to be avoided lol.... Still have an after effect from their experience... |
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05-17-2007, 04:01 PM
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Funny, I feel the same way. 
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05-17-2007, 04:18 PM
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First and formost in my belief system you are one of G-d's children...and G-d is waiting for you to awaken to that fact...and G-d has plenty of patience. But for most of us we have tons of 'mistakes' which turn out to be huge growth periods...we learn, we understand, to a level that we wouldn't had we not gone through whatever it was. Whether it is Scientologists, Mennonites, JW, Mormon, Baptist, Catholic, Born Again, Church of Christ, Buddhism, Islam....whatever religion/creed/cult...they all seem to have followers who gain something from the association... Sure for some it may be just the association or some other sort of internal benefit, and for others it may be they need the controlling guidance, or the dogma fits their needs...but when we put it down to those criteria...I think bowling and dart leagues, or pool tournaments actually fit the bill as well.... We leave whatever when we see behind the curtain and we don't like what we see, when it no longer suits our current paradigm.... and then we either respect our past, and learn from our decisions...or we choose to blame others for corrupting us so... I see that in folks that have left/joined so many different faiths... Everyone does the best, and makes the best decisions with the knowledge they currently have. (this always applies) and when we look back at our past follies...we say, "Well it seemed like a good idea at the time" And this is because at that time it was the best decision we could make with all the knowledge we had at that time. Hindsight a completely different story. |
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05-17-2007, 04:29 PM
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I learnt in a positive way;
I live my life... Not someone else. You decide what you enjoy and what you should do and how you should spend your free time.... Not some one else they have no control over your life. Yes, as I said A girl joined a little after me, we joked and stuff... She then turned as I said into a shell.... She was the pages of the watchtower and ironically titled "awake".... I accept and agree from mistakes you learn and become stronger. How would a pool team be like being apart of something that takes you from your friends/family/former life? And basically tells you what you think... That ain't pool lol..... Quote:
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05-17-2007, 04:47 PM
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As for snookers not taking its toll on friends and family life? Evidently you folks on the other side of the pond have a different experience. Over here in the colonies the tables are in alcohol establishments, and when playing a sporting event and drinking...betting ensues...it doesn't happen to everyone, but to some it ends up breaking up marriages, families and noses...and not so infrequently not to notice... So last thought...you learned from your experience...would you deny others the right to learn? Or was the lesson to hard? Or was there an easier way to learn that lesson? (ie how and when would you have learned without the experience?) |
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05-17-2007, 04:54 PM
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I wouldn't have.... I do not tend to take others words as gospel.... I have to do it myself to find out... No for -me- it wasn't hard... For some I am sure it could be very, very... hard for some... They try to lay the guilt trip on you... If my conscience was that sharp lol I would had doubts about leaving. So yeah need to beware....
Those JW's concerned I would say then http://www.exjws.net/ go there... They maybe able to help and offer support for you to leave..... But again I wouldn't rant and scream and say ALL JW's!! LEAVE NOW!!! Because that is your choice, you're happy with being a JW fair enough... You want to be a Scientologist.... Fine, that is your choice who am I to tell you who or what to be.... If I did, I wouldn't be better than the JW's that told me who I was and what I had to do...... -EDIT- It just upsets me sometimes to see people... Fading. You know... |
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05-17-2007, 05:06 PM
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Now I see why you ride mee so much. |
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05-17-2007, 05:12 PM
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gosh, 17th, C18 and a JW too? whatever next? a revolutionary socialist? an animal rights nutter? an ecological survivalist? a jihadi rent-a-beard?
you're like a one-man exercise in ideological extremism - i am sure CR must seem quite tame by comparison, but it is quite instructive to have you about the place. b'shalom bananabrain |
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05-17-2007, 05:31 PM
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Yes. There can be few things in life so terrible to watch as watch someone you love 'fade' as you put it. The saddness it evokes is unique. |
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05-17-2007, 05:51 PM
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But it reminds me of the one who sliced open the chrysalis to help the butterfly get out..and the butterfly came out easily, but did not expand its wings and soon died...The effort of the metamorphosis of squeezin out builds the strength and squeezes the juice into the wings... There is some other quote about the assitance of fire to temper steel...but I can't find it..not exactly the one I was looking for, I'll settle for Rumi's... ~If you are irritated by every rub, how will you be polished? |
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05-18-2007, 08:49 AM
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Yup C18 member and webmaster.... JW for over two years. Satanist for a loooong time. Then Satanist/Humanist.... Then many other little phases  Hacker Musician Writer (Which I still want to get somewhere with to this day...) And many other things... lol Quote:
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Interesting quote about the butterfly.... I am not 100% sure but if Scientology exactly like JW's then I would say that they are also told what they think..... Oh the power of subliminal suggestion... LOL que the ironic music! Queen - I wan't to break free! Has just come on the radio..... Serious lol. |
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