Benefit of belief

[Bandit]

Ok Plaidback. I will get back to you some more on this in a day or two. i like to learn the logic of others so it will be interesting...love that air time on the bunny hills & the first drop, the first time around is the best.

just one thing for now. if you believe you have no belief, that is a belief but it is not really a belief because we have no belief. and the benefit of having no belief is that we believe we have no belief. therefore we have no belief because that is what we believe.
HOW DID I DO?



much peace!! much time!! much truth!! much belief..NO!!

[Plaidback]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Love is a decision, I think that is what you were getting at, but I could be washed up. If this is correct, then I agree.

In love is the emotion, which goes along with fear, and anger and what have you.

Belief is like love, it is a decision. We choose to accept certain things. Once that is done, we base our lives on the choices we made. If our belief is weak, sometimes we turn back, and if it is strong, sometimes we move forward.

v/r

Q

First of all, my English sucks, so, with limited dictionary, it's very hard for me
not to end up being misunderstud. Especialy because, the way I feel is new to me too. I have always felt need and interest in finding out what is the truth, and now I feel that search is over.
Most important is that you're comfortable with what you feel about above mentioned subjects. I am not forcing nothing here, just trying to explain
what's actualy going on.
There are two different kinds of Love and neither is a decision. Decision is
something you have control over ( only in your beliefs ), and True love, and love ( human emotion ) are dimensions you can't control.
Everything that can not be prooven, or it is not certain, is belief, we can not feel belief, we feel what we know.
What we like, or dislike, was predetermined by our genes and DNA, therefore is not our choice, just like our entire life.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Plaidback

First of all, my English sucks, so, with limited dictionary, it's very hard for me
not to end up being misunderstud. Especialy because, the way I feel is new to me too. I have always felt need and interest in finding out what is the truth, and now I feel that search is over.

i understand your english & i know what you are saying. there is also personal experience where only another with the same experience can totally relate. it is good to have a foundation but i would not put a cap on searching for truth.

[Plaidback]

[quote=Bandit there is also personal experience where only another with the same experience can totally relate. it is good to have a foundation but i would not put a cap on searching for truth.[/QUOTE]


Now you talking !!

If that "Personal experience" don't happen to you, you will never feel that
The truth is just state of mind in which Everything you say can not be denied.
I told you, it is a Gift or talent, if you don't have it, you will be searching
forever.
Do you feel this ??

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Plaidback

Now you talking !!

If that "Personal experience" don't happen to you, you will never feel that
The truth is just state of mind in which Everything you say can not be denied.
I told you, it is a Gift or talent, if you don't have it, you will be searching
forever.
Do you feel this ??

oooooh i feel it. there is also a way that seems right, but it aint always right.
do you feel this?

[_Z_]

What exactly brought you to your truth plaidback? Just curios. It sounds like you have arrived at a state that the ancient south American peoples call ‘man of knowledge’ in the context of gnosis rather than ordinary knowledge!

[Plaidback]

Originally Posted by _Z_

What exactly brought you to your truth plaidback? Just curios. It sounds like you have arrived at a state that the ancient south American peoples call ‘man of knowledge’ in the context of gnosis rather than ordinary knowledge!

Destiny, who I am, have brought me the Truth on a silver platter, I did not ask for It. In my earlier posts, you can find how it happen.
There is Only one truth as Pattern of effects, that proove reality of things
that We "need to know".
Your truth, my truth is just part of that Pattern.

You live in England is your truth, I've lived in England from '87-'90 is my.
If you got gift to find truth of Who you are, that same gift will tell you who I am.

If that revelation of yours happen, you will find out that Genesis is Prophecy,
Six days represent Six thousand years, and that God is Making his People
Out of "Dirt" ( which is what we are right now ) and Life as result of
Somebody blowing something into your Nostrils, will bring you Picture of
Bautifull Mountains of South America where " Tree of Life " grows.

Maybe then you will Get the Picture of Who are God's People ( according
to Jesus of Nazareth in Matthew 24:9-10 )

Until then, Stay on yer bike

[_Z_]

Plaidback.



Are you the new prophet then , only joking, but I didn’t realise you ‘believed’ in Christianity! I don’t think the bible is the truth as concerns creation, it just seams somewhat infantile – but I suppose I could be wrong.

So yes I’ll stay on my bike, and hopefully never be part of the revalations.

So the tree of life is in south America eh! And all this time I thought it was a metaphore.


Z

[Plaidback]

Originally Posted by _Z_

Plaidback.



Are you the new prophet then , only joking, but I didn’t realise you ‘believed’ in Christianity! I don’t think the bible is the truth as concerns creation, it just seams somewhat infantile – but I suppose I could be wrong.

So yes I’ll stay on my bike, and hopefully never be part of the revalations.

So the tree of life is in south America eh! And all this time I thought it was a metaphore.


Z

God's existance is our dream, and our life is God's reality. Maybe is just me,
who see that Truth is existance dimension, besides being a word.
Truth started whatever started everything, long before Life came into
" existance dimension ". Something like, you looking @ your dining table and chairs, truth is they exist, you don't need words, or touch, to feel that truth.
( Same goes for true Love )
People that have dreams have priviledge of understanding how does life without Time feels. In that eternal existance, flesh exist all over planet
"whenever", so in same instance you're in Africa in Garden of Eden, and
Colombian mountains. I know, it is hard to feel, that we exist on God's reality
" playground ", not other way around.
Bible is truth, like fabric made of treads, that are stories, parables, metaphores, that you need to see and feel yourself.
Today, you can not be a prophet, because, whatever you say about future,
( I mean something that is going to take planets attention ), and it turn out
to be true, was already told by some Bible's Prophet.
When Joel's prophecy describes sign of coming of God in Joel 2:28,
" Sons and daughters will prophesy " is about artists that make up stories
that tell us what is actualy ( this time ) going to happen with Bibles prophecies. That is what I see in Movies and books, or TV Shows like
" Only Fools and Horses ". Imagine _Z_ , Del boy is England and His " bigger ",
" dumber " and younger brother is USA, Cassandra is South America, etc.
Or " Every Breath you take " by Police, being relation between GB & US
Not to mention " Hitchhikers Guide " , Cosmic


Laidback Peter, 42

[_Z_]

Plaidback hi.

Now we understand each other! I also see truth as an actual existence [if existence is the right word]; imho it is a place in the heart and central to eternity & all existence.

What’s all this bible stuff then – for a man of no belief, or were you teasing us.

Prophesy; I have always wondered why no one sees past around 2020 imo even in the bible. It was interesting when I read in revelations somewhere about ‘scars in the sky’, it’s just like airplanes and there trails!

Interesting what you see in shows and films, I never looked at them like that. I loved the hitchhikers guide – the series – lots of parallels in there. I’ll have to think on all that. Ha ha yes I see the ‘every breath you take’ thing, it makes me sick that Britain’s leaders are so spineless, so unlike true Britons! I think USA is Gemini, & Britain is Sagittarius [second decan, the stag], so on a political level perhaps there is a bond of opposites.



Z Richard 41 the dude

[Plaidback]

Originally Posted by _Z_

Plaidback hi.

Now we understand each other! I also see truth as an actual existence [if existence is the right word]; imho it is a place in the heart and central to eternity & all existence.

What’s all this bible stuff then – for a man of no belief, or were you teasing us.

Prophesy; I have always wondered why no one sees past around 2020 imo even in the bible. It was interesting when I read in revelations somewhere about ‘scars in the sky’, it’s just like airplanes and there trails!

Interesting what you see in shows and films, I never looked at them like that. I loved the hitchhikers guide – the series – lots of parallels in there. I’ll have to think on all that. Ha ha yes I see the ‘every breath you take’ thing, it makes me sick that Britain’s leaders are so spineless, so unlike true Britons! I think USA is Gemini, & Britain is Sagittarius [second decan, the stag], so on a political level perhaps there is a bond of opposites.



Z Richard 41 the dude

Well then, there you have it, glimpse of how Spirit, Holy that is, works.
You feel what you feel, and you can proove It as truth to you and the world.
Everything around you is an Information, received by your senses, and
processed by your brain.Nobody else in History of Mankind, did not feel
All you ever felt, your way. But If everything you feel is truth, and everything I feel is truth, means that we have identical Spirit, Holy that is, created by
our DNA, and we are Spiritualy as One.
When You know All you need to know, and All that is Truth, You don't have
Beliefs anymore.
When you say I believe in God, means that you have Respect and Understanding of single Creator of Everything being Everything.
When you know God, then He already elevated you to a Level, where you realized, that as Part of Everything Your Existance is God.
And All you need to do, is to Love your Neighbour as you love yourself.
Britain is Great country, just as USA. I mean they destriyed my Country, and
bombed Schools and Birth Clinics with Bombs with Depleted Uranium, but as
I have mentioned B4, it was God's plan, so, no hard feelings.
It probably takes to be Heroin addict, in order to claim, that is
" Shaite to be Scotish ", Like Renton did in T-spotting.

6 x 7 = 42, seven is 1 week, 42 weeks from start of a Year
is 2nd week of November, that is when I will become 42

That is because I am from Different Planet, fancy to see my Spaceship ?

Laidback Peter , Matthew 16:17,18,19

[Lightkeeper]

Originally Posted by Saponification

Subscribing to a belief system or reading sutras and other forms of texts won't automatically make these changes occur, so far as I'm concerned. Religion - any religion - can only show you the way to that stuff. You have to do the work. It shouldn't be a crutch, it should be a guide. The religious teachings are not in themselves the answer, what's at the end of them is.

Do your research. Find a belief system that suits you: your lifestyle, your beliefs, your morals, your ethics and so on. Don't let yourself get bullied into anything and make sure to shop around when looking for a spiritual teacher.

Great post. I am wondering if the system we want is one that helps us to let go of our beliefs.

[_Z_]

PB
I often wondered if spirit was simply spirit, but in its purity and union with god it is holy. Don’t think it is created by our DNA, perhaps you meant that the spirit is primary to the source of which DNA and all evolutions emanate. I see what you mean by truth over belief. I am not to keen on some of my neighbours though as they suck lol [ignorant and some almost demonic] but I understand the sentiment.
I don’t agree with our foreign policy and think we should keep out of other people’s wars; we had enough wars in our history! They are just a part of the growth of a nation. One thing though – when people say ‘it’s all gods plan’ is god the only thing that has an influence? I.e. we have an influence don’t we, and perhaps other more sinister elements too! All in all perhaps it is gods plan as perhaps all aspects are relative to the final outcome? Maybe Satan had to leave god so as to return and to play his part in the cycles of events – yet ‘all shall return to one thence going forth in union’.

I like the birthday numbers! The only thing I can say about mine is that it is on the date the Vedic calendar begins.



Yes I want to see your spaceship I’ll give you directions to my planet

Z

[Plaidback]

Originally Posted by Lightkeeper

Great post. I am wondering if the system we want is one that helps us to let go of our beliefs.

" In my humble opinion ", there are only two Systems we can,( by our state of mind ) picture ourselves In, Reality and Illusion.
If the System that we want is anything other that reality, in that case,
we have Illusions.
And I don't feel like I do.

Reality is the only System in which, we can Proove Everything we need to know.

( I know this can not possibly be offensive to Anybody )

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Plaidback

" In my humble opinion ", there are only two Systems we can,( by our state of mind ) picture ourselves In, Reality and Illusion.
If the System that we want is anything other that reality, in that case,
we have Illusions.
And I don't feel like I do.

Reality is the only System in which, we can Proove Everything we need to know.

( I know this can not possibly be offensive to Anybody )

well, yes, good points, though, some beliefs teach reality is an illusion.