Big Bang and Expanding of Universe

[islamis4u]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

I find it more than mere coincidence that the two religions that most like to claim some scientific insight are the two big fundamentalist groups of Islam and Evangelical Christianity. It is part of their sales pitch, their paradigm must be ineffable at any cost, except reason.

Listening to the Muslims and Creationists you see this glassy, impenetrable mind set that in its excitement at its own misplaced cleverness is incapable of reason. They are all really preaching to themselves. And I wonder why they struggle so hard to fool themselves.

I get tired of the "I cant see" or "I do not understand" of such minds. I understand, I believe, why people are religious. And all its causes are evolutionary and social.... and with no evidence to support any supernatural causation. So I say now to the next Muslim or Evangelical that I do know your religion. And I know it to be a product of people not Gods. Saying "god is great" or "praise the lord" is utterly meaningless gibberish. There is no God or Allah that has any meaning outside of peoples homage to such concepts. We have created Gods. And we have created them in our own image.


tao

Tao it feels very bad to say that you do not reply and just start attacking religion.... why did not you reply to the topic i may not have a point then you tell me why im wrong other then attacking someone's belief i differ with my Christian brother in some parts of belief but that does not mean i say Christians are bad and this and that.....

[islamis4u]

You will get your replies after the experiment soon.... so...

and see this post:
Guys Good Bye and Allah Hafiz.....

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by islamis4u

Tao it feels very bad to say that you do not reply and just start attacking religion.... why did not you reply to the topic i may not have a point then you tell me why im wrong other then attacking someone's belief i differ with my Christian brother in some parts of belief but that does not mean i say Christians are bad and this and that.....

Because I heard it all 100 times or more before. And frankly I just get tired of listening to such mindless dribble. I said it as it is. That simple.


tao

[Tao_Equus]

Back on topic...

I have often said Big Bang theory is flawed. Here is a story that shows forces at work that must be older than and are inexplicable within the context of Big Bang theory.

Mysterious New 'Dark Flow' Discovered in Space | LiveScience

They discovered that the clusters were moving nearly 2 million mph (3.2 million kph)toward a region in the sky between the constellations of Centaurus and Vela. This motion is different from the outward expansion of the universe (which is accelerated by the force called dark energy).
"We found a very significant velocity, and furthermore, this velocity does not decrease with distance, as far as we can measure," Kashlinsky told SPACE.com. "The matter in the observable universe just cannot produce the flow we measure."





tao