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05-21-2007, 02:54 PM
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Rider on the storm...
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
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Well, well, well. I thought you were not going to reply to me, as you said in a previous post, that this is your final, final , final, post to me, and you said that before as well.
You sure have a lot of harmony between your thoughts , words, and deeds.
And indeed , my british pal, if you check my links, you can see that most of the rapes are perpetrated by men of other races.
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I choose when I speak and when I change my mind not you.
All of these links below will show you that the problem you state is firmly imbedded within the Native Indian communities themselves.
Read them. I know it wont make much difference to you as you have a great ability to say you have read something but dont see what it says unless it supports your line of crap.
Native American Women and Violence
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/25/AR2007042502778.
Join Voices with Native American and Alaska Native Women and Take Action to Stop the Violence
If you want a cause to fight why dont you try fighting against the slave trafficking of Nepalese children to supply the middle classes of Mumbai and Delhi with child prostitutes?
http://www.childtrafficking.com/Content/Library/?CID=4e732ced3463d06de0ca9a15b6153677|515e
Of course your Great and Mighty and Noble constitution does not allow this!! And Indians dont use prostitutes either!! Even tho there are some 5.7 million of them with HIV!!
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05-21-2007, 02:59 PM
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UNeyeR1
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
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Glad, I inspired you. Go for it, cowboy.
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lol, don't know how you take credit for inspiring my past, If I've said something to fulfill the needs of your ego in this regard I suppose it is ok.
I really love your passion however the extent you go in this regard causes one to begin to dismiss what you say. You should temper yourself some, we are all aware and your ranting and pointing fingers becomes commical deminishing the results you may have.
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05-21-2007, 03:06 PM
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus
I choose when I speak and when I change my mind not you.
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Which shows what a strong "character " you have.
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What an idiot you are. Here is what your own link says,fool.
More than 86 percent of rapes against Native American women are carried out by non-native men, most of them white, according to the Justice Department.
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If you want a cause to fight why dont you try fighting against the slave trafficking on Nepalese children to supply the middle classes of Mumbai and Delhi with child prostitutes?
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This is highlighted too by our media and spiritual organisations, and our own spiritual masters themselves have rescued many prostitutes and children , and gave them education and vocational training and jobs to stand up on their own and take care of themselves. The government too is working on this, and many pimps have been made an example of .
I have indeed fought against prostitution , since I ever read "Crime and punishment" when I was 18, not many years back. And I will continue to fight them, everywhere.
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05-21-2007, 03:13 PM
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
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lol, don't know how you take credit for inspiring my past,.
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Well, you were the one, who was stating proudly that no one is being mistreated in America, till I pipped your balloon with my needle of a post.Then you started saying that your country indeed have many problems, and you want to work on it. So you indeed have to thank me for inspiring you, pal.
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If I've said something to fulfill the needs of your ego in this regard I suppose it is ok.,.
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Thank you, but I don't need it.
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You should temper yourself some, we are all aware and your ranting and pointing fingers becomes commical deminishing the results you may have.
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Well, I like comedy, so you guys can have a laugh as well, while going through my material. Perhaps after some time, the reality of it will hit you hard. Any way I have done my duty and that is what is important to me.
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05-21-2007, 03:21 PM
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UNeyeR1
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
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Originally Posted by niranjan
Well, you were the one, who was stating proudly that no one is being mistreated in America, till I pipped your balloon with my needle of a post.Then you started saying that your country indeed have many problems, and you want to work on it. So you indeed have to thank me for inspiring you, pal.
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You are mistaking me with someone else. My first response to you mentioned some of the problems in the US, you on the other hand wrote that 'that is convenient coming from an American'
Absolutely amazing that I had no idea of slavery, genocide and imprisoning of our indegenous peoples, poverty and starvation in our cities, when I've been on and off reservations for decades and worked with the homeless since childhood....amazing what you've done for me, since you take so much credit you must be a reincarnation of my father, or one of my elementary school teachers...as they are the ones deserving of the credit.
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till I pipped your balloon with my needle of a post.
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there you go again with that comedy...thanx again for the chuckle.
What can you tell us of Operation BlueStar? or other atrocities by your government?
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05-21-2007, 03:26 PM
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
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You are mistaking me with someone else. My first response to you mentioned some of the problems in the US, you on the other hand wrote that 'that is convenient coming from an American'
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Then what on earth do you think this is , from your own post addressed to me.
Yes, I am the convenient American, a country where nobody starves or is mistreated.
And I indeed must say you guys are very chivalrous to the native american ladies.
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05-21-2007, 03:37 PM
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Rider on the storm...
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
Ok, so I was wrong on a point. Now slap yourself on the back and call yourself the cleverest guy who ever walked. Will anyone ever hear you admit you were wrong?
The real point however is not what you say. It is how you say it and the contempt you show for every opinion not your own. I'm not a great fan of Ghandi. Sure he did a lot of good for India and inspired other people around the world to work for freedom. But he is dead. His message was not his message but the message of common humanity.
You dont care for our common humanity. You care about sitting back behind a keyboard and spouting a hatred of something long dead. You care about thinking that you know better than everyone else. You are a PRICK. I suggest you never come to the UK and try talking like that to people. I rode right round India on an enfeild and met 1000's of wonderful people. Never had 1 problem the whole time I was there. But India is not perfect, far from it. Corruption is endemic. Prostitution and masogyny are rife. Male contempt for woman is the norm. Put your own house in order. Then come shouting your crap.
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05-21-2007, 03:40 PM
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UNeyeR1
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
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Originally Posted by niranjan
Then what on earth do you think this is , from your own post addressed to me.
Yes, I am the convenient American, a country where nobody starves or is mistreated.
And I indeed must say you guys are very chivalrous to the native american ladies.
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That was many posts down the line my friend, after your continuing monologue. It appears you are completely devoid of an understanding of sarcasm....I must truly temper my words, as I wouldn't believe there would be anyone on this planet that would believe the above to be true.....nor get so excited that he set me straight.
You truly have enlightened me....I had no clue you would not understand.
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05-21-2007, 03:43 PM
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
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And what about Operation BlueStar ! The operation was conducted by a Sikh general himself to flush out terrorists in the Golden Temple, who have been killing and terrorising innocent sikhs and hindus who differed from their views.
And we are very glad it happened, or many more would have died.
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05-21-2007, 03:56 PM
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
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Ok, so I was wrong on a point. Now slap yourself on the back and call yourself the cleverest guy who ever walked. Will anyone ever hear you admit you were wrong?.
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And where am I wrong.
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The real point however is not what you say. It is how you say it and the contempt you show for every opinion not your own. I'm not a great fan of Ghandi.
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How can you be, when he destroyed your british empire, about which you too would have been boasting like rupyard kipling, had gandhi never existed.
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Never had 1 problem the whole time I was there.
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And why should there be a problem . We hate british imperialism, not the britishers.
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But India is not perfect, far from it. Corruption is endemic. Prostitution and masogyny are rife. Male contempt for woman is the norm. Put your own house in order. Then come shouting your crap.
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Corruption is there , just like in all countries. And even then we too are working vigorously on it, especially the media and the government to eradicate it.
Sting operations by the media and other organisations are very common in India now, and we have netted a lot of corrupt politicians and made an example of them as well.
As for prostitution as I said, it is also being eradicated throught the efforts of the government and the spiritual organisations as I pointed out before.
And you have to understand that India is a land of 1 billion 200 million, more than the population of Eurasia and the U.S. It will take time to completely eradicate these vices in India, but it is definetely possible, as is shown by the efforts of Kiran Bedi, using our own natural resources like meditation and spirituality.
And where is male contempt for women. We have many female leaders, mps , mlas and chief ministers , and a female prime minister as well.If you care to notice , we identify God as Mother , not as Father.
Our own scriptures teach that each woman is the manifestation of the Divine Mother on earth, and is the source of all power and strength and culture.There are temples in India where women are worshipped. And this is the reason why Vivekananda and Gandhi and our spiritual masters spend more time and energy on elevating women, as it is of strategic importance.
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05-21-2007, 04:01 PM
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
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I must truly temper my words, as I wouldn't believe there would be anyone on this planet that would believe the above to be true
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Oh really, why don't you check the links which our benevolent Tao has given us . He did it for the purpose of fighting me, but it boomeranged on his face.
Any way I have a feeling that the Mother Herself used him as an instrument to bring those links here.
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05-21-2007, 04:26 PM
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Rider on the storm...
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
My ancestory is Sweedish not Brittish, your presumptious nature is wrong at almost every turn.
You cannot even see past the most obvious sarcasm and bend it in your own twisted logic to mean what you want. I bet you spend hours in front of the mirror before you ever go out too.
You have not contributed once yet to peace and fellowship of all peoples but have used wrongs to promote your own brand of hate. I would not piss on you now if you were on fire.
I wish, truly I wish, you had one reedeming feature. But you dont.
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05-21-2007, 04:30 PM
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Where is the Love???
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
Indeed... It is more of a form of hatred disguised as "Oh how terrible, I want peace." ;/ but, that tiz life.......
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05-21-2007, 04:39 PM
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
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My ancestory is Sweedish not Brittish, your presumptious nature is wrong at almost every turn..
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Well, you are in scotland, and why are you defending british imperialism and its wrongs, if so.
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You cannot even see past the most obvious sarcasm and bend it in your own twisted logic to mean what you want. I bet you spend hours in front of the mirror before you ever go out too.
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Well, to tell the truth, I like looking at myself in the mirror. A work of art, really, especially the scar.
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You have not contributed once yet to peace and fellowship of all peoples but have used wrongs to promote your own brand of hate.
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I am only protesting against the oppression of aborginals in this thread.
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I would not piss on you now if you were on fire.
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Thank you. And I don't want anyone to put down my fire, not that they can do anything about it.
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I wish, truly I wish, you had one reedeming feature. But you dont.
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Well, I did point out your idiocy, and you yourself admitted this. Come on, be a sport.
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05-21-2007, 04:43 PM
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Re: British atrocities in Australia
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Indeed... It is more of a form of hatred disguised as "Oh how terrible, I want peace." ;/ but, that tiz life.......
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And where did I say, I want peace. I only said, that the aborginals so-called queen, instead of spending time in horse riding, picnics, and talking about the weather, should spend some attention on the welfare of her so-called subjects. Or otherwise she will join your present location and might take you as a lover and force herself on you . So you see, it is imperative on your part to convince her on the aborginals welfare , or else you know what will happen.
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