Burma - Page 2

wil · 09-26-2007, 01:33 PM

100,000 hit the streets!

holding their alms bowls umop episdn to indicate that they are not blessing the powers that be by next accepting their offering...

in response the marshal law and public gathering rules say more than 5 in a group need a permit..and warning shots for peaceable demonstrations have been fired....

Muslimwoman · 09-28-2007, 10:17 PM

I haven't posted for a few days and am astonished that no-one is talking about Burma.... or am I jt not seeing the thread? To me it is just further confirmation that the whole world has gone barking mad. Killing and arresting Buddhist monks, possibly the most peaceful people on the planet. They own a robe and a rice bowl - wow such a threat to civilisation.

I am very sad about this situation and my hopes and prayers go out to the people of Burma. Unfortunately they don't have barrel loads of oil to steal so we probably won't do anything to help them.

wil · 09-28-2007, 10:49 PM

You are not seeing the thread....

This would be the third one...

gotta run or I'd find the other two...

and yes the monks are in our prayers...

civil disobedience, non violent confrontation...amazing how powerful it is...so powerful the other side has to kill for it...if the monks can hold out and the people there are getting to see what we see here...they will win!

flowperson · 09-28-2007, 10:52 PM

Hi MW...I think everyone has thrown up their hands in dismay regarding this latest outburst of Facism, however there have been some moments of mention when it began in this section under "saffron revolution" and on "lets hope this stays peaceful" under Buddhism. I did a rant under "political quotations" after some member quoted Aung Sang Suu Kyi, who in my opinion personifies the reasons for the horrors that are now descending upon Myanmar/Burma and its people. Also keep in mind the parallel of Bhuddist Monks burning themselves to death at the initiation of major hostilities in Vietnam.

Keep in mind that this Nobel Peace Laureate has been essentially under house arrest for more than a decade by the military cowards who fear progressive changes there. IMHO, this is all likely blowback from the corrupting of the nation because of its prominent role in the "golden triangle drug trade" of the Vietnam war era, and the involvement of prominent and wealthy Americans and Brits in all of that. Also, since China is Burma's industrial and military "sugar daddy" these days, the silence of the powers that be has been deafening until just the past few days for fear of pissing-off the Chinese dragon unnecessarily. As with the appeasement of Hitler in the 30's, silence has been read as assent by those hidden Fascists in control of the "situation". I'm praying for our brothers and sisters in saffron over there.

I just heard on National Public Radio today that independent satellite studies by American scientists have shown that entire villages have been "disappeared" from the countryside there in the recent past. Of course our so called "military intelligence" organizations knew about it all as it was happening. Just horrible and disgusting !

flow....

Muslimwoman · 09-28-2007, 11:00 PM

Sorry for staring the new thread, maybe a mod can move into one of the others?

Oh thank you I shall go and read the threads. It is just unbelievable and words fail me ...... that doesn't happen often.

flowperson · 09-28-2007, 11:16 PM

Hmmm...Might be better to collect the various posts and move them here. This is a clash between sacred and secular forces, and it isn't going to go away soon, IMHO.

flow....

greymare · 09-29-2007, 12:42 AM

I too am outraged. Our prime minister has said hell impose sanctions on the country but doesnt want to hurt the population of burma. and yes mw I think that if we discovered something as valuable as oil/diamonds over there, then we might (western society) have a lot more to do with it. Our political leaders only intervene when they think it will benefit them, not when its only something as mundane as lives that depend on it. I dont know exactly what to do about it myself. I'll email as many political leaders here that I can to intervene I guess. Any suggestions?????? love the grey

bob x · 09-29-2007, 06:14 AM

I've heard there are some sizable natural gas deposits. Maybe if we start talking that up, all over the net, some of the politicians will start to care.
Yes, I'm feeling a little cynical.

greymare · 09-29-2007, 08:46 AM

i no how u feel bobx. fair dinkum, if you have to attack the most passive people on the planet,(buddhist monks, for g-ds sake) you must be lower than ,,,,, I dunno . anything. Big men, they must be soooooo proud.NOT

flowperson · 09-29-2007, 03:07 PM

Hi Bob and Grey...Here's an update on the sattelite surveilances of the goings on in Myanmar:

http://www.boston.com/news/world/asi...burmas_plight/

and...does ANYBODY believe that this is a coincidence ?????

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070929/...fMHjLn96Cs0NUE

Cynicism is more that appropriate IMHO.

flow....

Snoopy · 09-29-2007, 03:59 PM

The Burma Campaign UK Home Page

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Tao_Equus · 09-29-2007, 11:54 PM

China remains the sole influence. Add ur name to call for boycot of olympics till Burma is free!!

Muslimwoman · 09-30-2007, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by greymare

I too am outraged. Our prime minister has said hell impose sanctions on the country but doesnt want to hurt the population of burma. and yes mw I think that if we discovered something as valuable as oil/diamonds over there, then we might (western society) have a lot more to do with it. Our political leaders only intervene when they think it will benefit them, not when its only something as mundane as lives that depend on it. I dont know exactly what to do about it myself. I'll email as many political leaders here that I can to intervene I guess. Any suggestions?????? love the grey

Hi Grey

You sum up just how I feel. Our bloody political 'leaders' are doing the 'we will hold a meeting to discuss whether we should hold a meeting to discuss the issue' thing - while people are dying in the streets and monks are being tortured. We all dived into the middle east to 'deliver democracy' to people who never asked for it, yet these people are asking for it and we sit on our hands and get the calulators out to see if they have enough energy worth stealing, making it worth helping them. AAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

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Originally Posted by flowperson

and...does ANYBODY believe that this is a coincidence ?????

Firms seek access to Myanmar oil fields - Yahoo! News

Coincidence - my wobbly behind!!!!! I just feel so frustrated, I don't know whether to cry or go throw rocks through the embassy of Burma (and I usually object to such demonstrations).

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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

China remains the sole influence. Add ur name to call for boycot of olympics till Burma is free!!

Where do I sign up Tao?

greymare · 10-01-2007, 12:03 AM

as much as I love the olympics, ill boycot them , no worries.

flowperson · 10-01-2007, 12:58 AM

How's this for a campaign button, "Bugger the Bejing Olympics!"

flow....