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[Alex P]

lol Righty oh Thanks for the post

[wil]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

The hypocrisy of thinking being a christian means partaking of the weekly fashion parade and singing songs of homage to a church and its propaganda whilst ignoring the plight of your neighbour.

tao

Exactly one of the topics in the atheist discussion....

brain is filling up and will unload more later..

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

The hypocrisy of thinking being a christian means partaking of the weekly fashion parade and singing songs of homage to a church and its propaganda whilst ignoring the plight of your neighbour.

Ah, so if I do not partake of the weekly fashion parade and do not sing songs of homage to a church and its propaganda then it is OK to ignore the plight of my neighbor in order to not be hypocritical? I just want to see if I'm on the same page...

[juantoo3]

BTW, wil...

What was the question again?, I was too overwhelmed to respond!

There was a lot in there that looked interesting...I hope you enjoy whichever lectures you choose to sit in on.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Ah, so if I do not partake of the weekly fashion parade and do not sing songs of homage to a church and its propaganda then it is OK to ignore the plight of my neighbor in order to not be hypocritical? I just want to see if I'm on the same page...

You got it

ta

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

You got it

ta

OK, so I make certain I am following; if I do *not* ignore the plight of my neighbor, and choose not to partake of the weekly fashion parade and not to sing songs of homage to a church...am I an hypocrit, or not?

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Once we get this settled, then we will need to flesh out precisely what is meant by "ignore the plight of my neighbor"...is my neighbor just those people next door? the same block? the same city? the same country?

The same name? the same skin color? the same philosophical / religious outlook? Or am I beholding to all 6 billion plus persons on the face of the planet? Should lines be drawn?, and if so, where?

Can a person *truly* be beholding to the plight of 6 billion others and maintain sanity? Or is this another exercise in lip service?

[wil]

8 am to 9pm, 15 minute breaks, and dinner breaks...then hanging out discussing...sleep deprivation...good stuff, tons of it.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

OK, so I make certain I am following; if I do *not* ignore the plight of my neighbor, and choose not to partake of the weekly fashion parade and not to sing songs of homage to a church...am I an hypocrit, or not?

No, the hypocrite I infer is someone who thinks they are a good person solely because they go to church and does not make any other ethical choices. Or, to put it another way, does not live the 'Christ' message but pays lip service to it for entirely selfish reasons. The church-going demographic here in the UK may be different than the one you see. And it seems to me to be little more than a parading of wealth and an excuse for a bitch about Mrs H who is wearing the same outfit she did last month. The average age of a church-goer here is pretty old. And they are a mean, austere group outwith their own personal display of wealth. But of course this is a generalisation and I am sure that a look at individuals would show a few exceptions to the rule. Still it in some way disgusts me to see them parading in at 11 on a sunday morning in their tweeds and furs dripping with gold and pearls. And I do see that every week from my window.

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Once we get this settled, then we will need to flesh out precisely what is meant by "ignore the plight of my neighbor"...is my neighbor just those people next door? the same block? the same city? the same country?

The same name? the same skin color? the same philosophical / religious outlook? Or am I beholding to all 6 billion plus persons on the face of the planet? Should lines be drawn?, and if so, where?

Can a person *truly* be beholding to the plight of 6 billion others and maintain sanity? Or is this another exercise in lip service?

I think this comes down to your intent in life. Do you want to be a part of the cause for real progress, equality, justice and fairness or are you only concerned about whats in it for you. If everyone helped someone till the point that that person was able to do the same for someone else, what a difference that would make.

tao

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

If everyone helped someone till the point that that person was able to do the same for someone else, what a difference that would make.

I think the average joe / josephine would agree and could even be said to help someone else.

I was asking about helping anyone else...I see a huge difference.

If we only help our own; those that agree with us, look like us, believe as we do...what purpose is served?

However, if we can still find it within ourselves to reach out to those who are not our "own;" who disagree with us, who look different than we do, who do not necessarily believe as we believe without any attempt to convert them or change them...*then* we could be said to be making progress. Then I would agree that a difference was being made.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

I think the average joe / josephine would agree and could even be said to help someone else.

I was asking about helping anyone else...I see a huge difference.

If we only help our own; those that agree with us, look like us, believe as we do...what purpose is served?

However, if we can still find it within ourselves to reach out to those who are not our "own;" who disagree with us, who look different than we do, who do not necessarily believe as we believe without any attempt to convert them or change them...*then* we could be said to be making progress. Then I would agree that a difference was being made.

Precisely why I am here

tao

[juantoo3]

All evidence to the contrary notwithstanding...

Luv ya anyway, LOL