can animals choose Virtue?

[Alex P]

lol... Oh how I enjoy watching others attempting to seperate the "mighty" human from the other animals...

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Alex P

lol... Oh how I enjoy watching others attempting to seperate the "mighty" human from the other animals...

Naw, you can just turn the page...

[path_of_one]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

As far as we're concerned, nature projects the human qualities we've assigned it.

Chris

Or we project the natural qualities Nature has assigned to us.

Kim

[greymare]

the best one of the litter is usually the runt and the best one of the bunch is usually the mongrel. (LOL) in my opinion.

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by path_of_one

Or we project the natural qualities Nature has assigned to us.

Kim

Agreed.

Chris

[Nick_A]

Virtue

2. conformity of one's life and conduct to moral and ethical principles; uprightness; rectitude.

Thank goodness animals are free of imagination so as not to become victims of virtue.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by greymare

the best one of the litter is usually the runt and the best one of the bunch is usually the mongrel. (LOL) in my opinion.

Hooligan, that is what they are called...lol

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Nick_A

Virtue



Thank goodness animals are free of imagination so as not to become victims of virtue.

Uh? What animals are you referring to? Imagination is the epitome of mine...trust me on that...

[Nick_A]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Uh? What animals are you referring to? Imagination is the epitome of mine...trust me on that...

A dog or a horse for example is balanced enough not to become a victim of virtue

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Nick_A

A dog or a horse for example is balanced enough not to become a victim of virtue

But Nick, by their very nature (disposition towards man), they are very virtuous, and sometimes victim. Ironic, considering one is predator and the other is prey, but when man comes between, they become best friends?...and often save each other?...

Victims? or advocates?

[Nick_A]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

But Nick, by their very nature (disposition towards man), they are very virtuous, and sometimes victim. Ironic, considering one is predator and the other is prey, but when man comes between, they become best friends?...and often save each other?...

Victims? or advocates?

Being natural is not being virtuous. Consider the definition

2. conformity of one's life and conduct to moral and ethical principles; uprightness; rectitude.

The dog is just being a dog while we are putting on an act that normally results in the hypocrisy of doing the opposite. What we call virtue is just suppression which lacks understanding and if taken too far is poison for the psych.

I have yet to read a sex educator speak from any understanding about sexual cautions because of virtue and glorified suppression. As a result only a rare few remember the logic behind the cautions and incapable of expressing other than the the usual concerns for disease and pregnancy etc.

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

No, I think you miss the point of animals in general.

I'm often wrong.

Chris

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Nick_A

Being natural is not being virtuous. Consider the definition



The dog is just being a dog while we are putting on an act that normally results in the hypocrisy of doing the opposite. What we call virtue is just suppression which lacks understanding and if taken too far is poison for the psych.

I have yet to read a sex educator speak from any understanding about sexual cautions because of virtue and glorified suppression. As a result only a rare few remember the logic behind the cautions and incapable of expressing other than the the usual concerns for disease and pregnancy etc.

Arguing "semantics" over what an animal may or may not be...is ludicrous. Thousands of years of history concerning animals rising to the occasion to protect man, and man protect animal, and your attempt to place hold it in a status of "natural behavior"?

Sir, you have got to get out more...

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

I'm often wrong.

Chris

But you admit it...which makes it easier for me to do the same...lol.

[Nick_A]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Arguing "semantics" over what an animal may or may not be...is ludicrous. Thousands of years of history concerning animals rising to the occasion to protect man, and man protect animal, and your attempt to place hold it in a status of "natural behavior"?

Sir, you have got to get out more...

And you must look inward more to verify these things one way or another.

Matthew 6

28"And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

We worry about the right or "correct" image at the expense of reality. But the lily is just being the lily. The lily is able to be real. As Socrates said: "May the outward and inward man be at one." The outward dog and inward dog is the same unless conditioned to be unnatural as in teaching pit bulls to be killers. The dog is able to be real while we are no longer capable of it and compensate for it by blindly accepting societal dictates.

Virtue is just vanity gone mad. It sacrifices reality for image. If person were able to create an image for a conscious purpose, they could create their personality and this would be normal. We however have become our personality and have become an image. Even the image of Solomon could not match the lily.