Can I have you for dinner?

[17th Angel]

So, what you're saying mee... Is anyone here that doesn't believe what you believe is talking rubbish? That their faith and goals are rubbish? There are no lessons or love in their faith?... lol.... That sounds bad brah..... I'd say there are many many good foods... I tend to be weary more of the chef then the dish........

[pattimax]

Originally Posted by mee

are you into good spiritual food or are you into rubbish food ?



because on here you will find good stuff and rubbish stuff .


so what do you like for your dinner?


many people are misled to believe that good is bad .

and many are misled to believe that bad is good

...and watch out for scripture twisters... burp.

[Lecter]

Originally Posted by mee

Hi there,
if you would like to take in some good spiritual food

No, no I was talking about real food. You see I'm a cannibal

That's why I asked, Can I have you for dinner

[mee]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

So, what you're saying mee... Is anyone here that doesn't believe what you believe is talking rubbish? That their faith and goals are rubbish? There are no lessons or love in their faith?... lol.... That sounds bad brah..... I'd say there are many many good foods... I tend to be weary more of the chef then the dish........

Jesus only feeds one lot of faithful servants and it is the faithful ones matthew 24;45-47 so it would depend on if a person wanted to be fed from the channel Jesus is feeding

[mee]

Originally Posted by pattimax

...and watch out for scripture twisters... burp.

yes there are lots of them around .

[mee]

Originally Posted by Lecter

No, no I was talking about real food. You see I'm a cannibal

That's why I asked, Can I have you for dinner

good spiritual food leads to the real life .


This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. JOHN 17;3



the true God is this one

That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth.
psalm 83;18

and his son is Jesus christ

JOHN 3;16

[Lecter]

Originally Posted by mee

That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,

You alone are the Most High over all the earth.
psalm 83;18

Amen

and his son is Jesus christ

JOHN 3;16

And his son David: "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me (King David, King), Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee" Psalms 2:7

And his son Jacob: "Israel is my son, even my firstborn" Exodus 4:22

And his son Solomon: "He shall build an house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son" 2 Samuel 7:13-14

And his son Ephraim: "for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn." Jeremiah 31:9


And his son Adam: "Adam, which was the son of God." Luke 3:38

And his son you (and everyone else): "Ye are the children of the LORD your God" Deuteronomy 14:1

"Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: ... now are we the sons of God" 1 John 3:1-2


How many sons does god have again?

The Jews wrote the title son of god meaning someone who is loyal and devoted to god almighty, that is why the title is given to lots of god's servants. As for Jesus, he was indeed unique, I have no problem in describing him as a unique loyal servant of god, for that he truly was.

[mee]

Originally Posted by Lecter

Amen

And his son David: "I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me (King David, King), Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee" Psalms 2:7

And his son Jacob: "Israel is my son, even my firstborn" Exodus 4:22

And his son Solomon: "He shall build an house for my name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son" 2 Samuel 7:13-14

And his son Ephraim: "for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn." Jeremiah 31:9


And his son Adam: "Adam, which was the son of God." Luke 3:38

And his son you (and everyone else): "Ye are the children of the LORD your God" Deuteronomy 14:1

"Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: ... now are we the sons of God" 1 John 3:1-2


How many sons does god have again?

The Jews wrote the title son of god meaning someone who is loyal and devoted to god almighty, that is why the title is given to lots of god's servants. As for Jesus, he was indeed unique, I have no problem in describing him as a unique loyal servant of god, for that he truly was.

He certainly was unique, he was the first thing that Jehovah created ,
he was the FIRST-BORN of creation .

And he was the only one that was sent down from heaven to the earth , Jesus had a pre-human life in the heavens with his father Jehovah before he was born on the earth , so he is unique.



So before being born on earth as a man Jesus had been in heaven as a mighty spirit person.

He had a spirit body invisible to man, just as God has. (John 4:24)

Jesus himself often spoke of the high position he had held in heaven. Once he prayed: "Father, glorify me alongside yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was." (John 17:5)

He also said to his listeners: "You are from the realms below; I am from the realms above." "What, therefore, if you should behold the Son of man ascending to where he was before?" "Before Abraham came into existence, I have been."—John 8:23; 6:62; 8:58; 3:13; 6:51.



yes even before Abraham was born Jesus was around in heaven .

[Joedjr]

Hi Mee,

Originally Posted by mee

He certainly was unique, he was the first thing that Jehovah created ,
he was the FIRST-BORN of creation .

This is from the NASB. John 1:
1:In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with G!d, and the Word was G!d.
2:He was in the beginning with God.
3:All things came into being through Him, and apart form Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

Seems the Word was around before Creation.

So before being born on earth as a man Jesus had been in heaven as a mighty spirit person.

He had a spirit body invisible to man, just as God has. (John 4:24)

Here's John 4:
23:"But and hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His Worshipers.
24:"G!d is spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth."

John 4:24 talks about G!d not Jesus.

Joe

[Lecter]

What do you mean when saying that Jesus is god's son as opposed to someone he created amongst other creation of god?

Like what do you mean by the word son? What are you implying?

And please give me a simple answer in plain English, I am afraid English isn't my first language. And don't quote scripture, I want to hear what you have to say about this.

[mee]

Originally Posted by Joedjr

Hi Mee,


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John 4:24 talks about G!d not Jesus.

Joe

yes you are quite correct to say that this verse is speaking about God Jehovah , the point i was making was that just as Jehovah is a spirit in heaven so also Jesus in his pre-human life was in the form of spirit because he lived in heaven with his father Jehovah .

he had a pre-human life in heaven before he was sent to the earth

and as PROVERBS 8;30 mentions .......

then I came to be beside him as a master worker, and I came to be the one he was specially fond of day by day, I being glad before him all the time,


yes as JOHN 1;1 tells us the word or LOGOS was there in the beginning of creation , Jesus in his pre-human exsistence as the FIRST-BORN of all creation was there when all other things were created. in fact ALL other things were created through Jesus and he was a master worker. but the first born of Jehovahs creations was Jesus . thats why Jesus is called the ONLY-BEGOTTEN son of God . he was the ONLY ONE created by Jehovah alone . everything else was created through Jesus . Yes Jesus was in the beginning of the creation of God , he was around and had a part in it

thats why in Genesis 1;26 it says LET US make man



he was talking to his son his first-born of creation

[mee]

Originally Posted by Lecter

And don't quote scripture, I want to hear what you have to say about this.

LOL Thats the problem ,people have gone away from scripture and instead have their own thoughts not inline with the bible

[Joedjr]

Hi Mee,

Originally Posted by mee

LOL Thats the problem ,people have gone away from scripture and instead have their own thoughts not inline with the bible

The thing is Mee, the quotes and the explanation and prophecy that you use on this forum also come from the same place: the minds of men. Whether the thought is this century, last or 20 centuries ago it still comes from the minds of men. It's your personal belief that the men you quote from are correct. That seems to be the only personal thought you leave us with. Is there any other?
peace
Joe

[Lecter]

Originally Posted by mee

LOL Thats the problem ,people have gone away from scripture and instead have their own thoughts not inline with the bible

I still want to hear what you think based on scripture, what I meant was that I want you to put it in your own words.

What do you mean by Jesus being the son of god?

[mee]

Originally Posted by Lecter

I still want to hear what you think based on scripture, what I meant was that I want you to put it in your own words.

What do you mean by Jesus being the son of god?

Jesus himself states that he is "the beginning of the creation by God."—Re 3:14.

Jesus is God’s "firstborn" (Col 1:15) as God’s first creation, called "the Word" in his prehuman existence. (Joh 1:1) The word "beginning" in John 1:1 cannot refer to the "beginning" of God the Creator, for he is eternal, having no beginning. (Ps 90:2) It must therefore refer to the beginning of creation, when the Word was brought forth by God as his firstborn Son.