chakra test ~ how open are yours?

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by Alex P

Why yes! You get a leaflet?

Well, OK, but only if we get to do the chanting as singing back-up vocals to the oldies. Maybe something like this?

Only the lonely
(r.orbison/melson)

Vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum
Ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah
Vam-vam-vam-hu-aum
Only the lonely

Only the lonely (vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum)
Know the way I feel tonight (ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah)
Only the lonely (vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum)
Know this feelin aint right (vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum)

There goes my baby (vam-vam-vam-vam!)
There goes my heart (vam-vam-vam-vam!)
They're gone forever (vam-vam-vam-vam!)
So far apart (vam-vam-vam-vam!)

But only the lonely
Know why
I cry
Only the lonely

Vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum
Ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah
Vam-vam-vam-hu-aum
Only the lonely

Only the lonely (vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum)
Know the heartaches I've been through (ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah)
Only the lonely (vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum)
Know I cried and cried for you (vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum)

Maybe tomorrow (vam-vam-vam-vam!)
A new romance (vam-vam-vam-vam!)
No more sorrow (vam-vam-vam-vam!)
But thats the chance - you gotta take
If your lonely heart breaks
Only the lonely

Vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum

[17th Angel]

That's a given!

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by Alex P

That's a given!

Alright, who're you gonna get to sing the lead vocals?

[Dream]

Is this bad?

Root:under-active(-44%) Sacral:under-active(-19%) Navel:under-active(-44%) Heartpen(0%) Throat:under-active(-13%) Third Eyepen(13%) Crown:under-active(-13%)

[17th Angel]

Willie Nelson.

[_Z_]

hi seattlegal

Isn’t it quite dangerous to open your crown chakra without having the grounding stability of a strong root chakra?

i don’t know! i thought it just made us different rather than lesser or better? by dangerous what do you mean? i think i am balanced ~ or at least i did

dream
i am unsure i was hoping some of our resident hindus would pop here and give us the lowdown!

[Dream]

Don't worry about it, Z. I need some chakratic stem-cells for sure, which means its just too bad, so sad for me. Hey, look at this 'Sublime philosophical crap test' in the Related threads section at the bottom of the page!

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by _Z_

hi seattlegal


i don’t know! i thought it just made us different rather than lesser or better? by dangerous what do you mean? i think i am balanced ~ or at least i did

Oh, just losing touch with reality, perhaps even becoming an irrational religious or political radical (notice how the word "radical" is even derived from the word "root?")
From Online Etymology Dictionary:

radical
1398 (adj.), in a medieval philosophical sense, from L.L. radicalis "of or having roots," from L. radix (gen. radicis) "root" (see radish). Meaning "going to the origin, essential" is from 1651. Political sense of "reformist" (via notion of "change from the roots") is first recorded 1802 (n.), 1820 (adj.), of the extreme section of the British Liberal party (radical reform had been a current phrase since 1786); meaning "unconventional" is from 1921. U.S. youth slang use is from 1983, from 1970s surfer slang meaning "at the limits of control." Radical chic is attested from 1970.

There are some interesting Old Testament references to "root," if you sift through them. (Root of bitterness in Deuteronomy 29 and Root of rottenness in Isaiah 5 are especially interesting.) simple search for "root" in Old Testament

[Netti-Netti]

According to Ewald Berkers of Eclectic Energies, an overactive Root chakra indicates excessive concern with its issues. If we take this at face value, high scoring folks feel less grounded, as indicated by more intense concern with the issues. I don't know if that's because they actually are less grounded. Maybe they just feel that way because of current life circumstances.

Conversely, folks scoring low on Root chakra presumably feel more grounded, as indicated by less concern with Root issues. I don't know if that's because they're actually more grounded.

The page on the psychological properties of chakras was interesting. I notice the use of rather similar terms to describe the properties of different chakras. The absence of qualities like personal self-efficacy and relatedness are associated with an "overactive" Root chakra. Interestingly, the presence of these elements would seem to indicate low levels of Naval chakra and Heart chakra. I say that based on my experimental response set: When I tried to fake the test out by emulating an overactive Root construct, the results were different from what I expected. Items that -- based on Ewald Berkers' description -- should have resulted in an overactive Root chakra score gave me a very low Naval chakra score and somewhat low Heart Chakra score. Mmmm.

Just because a test doesn't have face validity doesn't mean it isn't any good. But it does point to the need for other evidence of validity. Which in this instance includes.....?.?.?.......

[_Z_]

seattlegal

Oh, just losing touch with reality, perhaps even becoming an irrational religious or political radical (notice how the word "radical" is even derived from the word "root?")

well that is true, my mother will attest to the fact that i have indeed always been ‘in a dreamworld’. my ideals do tend to be well, not irrational [i hope] but extreme/radical, this is as is necessarily so, i take things to extremes to redraw the line of balance. i do feel it is time to change though.

netti netti
i found the test to be accurate as i read more into it, i don’t know much about the root though. i would say i am grounded yet also concerned [although mainly with philosophical issues]. i would think that the makers of the test would have tried it out the same as you did ~ but maybe not?

[seattlegal]

Thank you for responding, Netti-Netti.

Originally Posted by Netti-Netti

According to Ewald Berkers of Eclectic Energies, an overactive Root chakra indicates excessive concern with its issues. If we take this at face value, high scoring folks feel less grounded, as indicated by more intense concern with the issues. I don't know if that's because they actually are less grounded. Maybe they just feel that way because of current life circumstances.

Over-compensation for deficiencies in other areas? {Along the line of a man going through a mid-life crisis buying himself a porche, perhaps?}

Conversely, folks scoring low on Root chakra presumably feel more grounded, as indicated by less concern with Root issues. I don't know if that's because they're actually more grounded.

The page on the psychological properties of chakras was interesting. I notice the use of rather similar terms to describe the properties of different chakras. The absence of qualities like personal self-efficacy and relatedness are associated with an "overactive" Root chakra. Interestingly, the presence of these elements would seem to indicate low levels of Naval chakra and Heart chakra. I say that based on my experimental response set: When I tried to fake the test out by emulating an overactive Root construct, the results were different from what I expected. Items that -- based on Ewald Berkers' description -- should have resulted in an overactive Root chakra score gave me a very low Naval chakra score and somewhat low Heart Chakra score. Mmmm.

Interesting. I guess that shows how being greedy and materialistic (overactive root chakra) might make you cold and distant (underactive heart chakra), but might the cause of greedy materialism spring from being afraid of not getting what you want in group situations (low navel chakra?) Perhaps it's a chicken and egg question. Whichever the case might be, it does highlight the interrelatedness between the chakras--the person as a whole--who is greater than the sum of their parts.

Just because a test doesn't have face validity doesn't mean it isn't any good. But it does point to the need for other evidence of validity. Which in this instance includes.....?.?.?.......

I'd have to agree with you there.

[Netti-Netti]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

Only the lonely
(r.orbison/melson)

Vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum
Ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah
Vam-vam-vam-hu-aum
Only the lonely

Only the lonely (vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum)
Know the way I feel tonight (ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah)
Only the lonely (vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum)
Know this feelin aint right (vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum)

There goes my baby (vam-vam-vam-vam!)
There goes my heart (vam-vam-vam-vam!)
They're gone forever (vam-vam-vam-vam!)
So far apart (vam-vam-vam-vam!)

But only the lonely
Know why
I cry
Only the lonely

Vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum
Ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah
Vam-vam-vam-hu-aum
Only the lonely

Only the lonely (vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum)
Know the heartaches I've been through (ooh-yay-yay-yay-yeah)
Only the lonely (vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum)
Know I cried and cried for you (vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum)

Maybe tomorrow (vam-vam-vam-vam!)
A new romance (vam-vam-vam-vam!)
No more sorrow (vam-vam-vam-vam!)
But thats the chance - you gotta take
If your lonely heart breaks
Only the lonely

Vam-vam-vam-vam-ve-hu-aum

Brilliant! Without a doubt the most accurate transcription I've seen of that song.

[Netti-Netti]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

Over-compensation for deficiencies in other areas?

What did Jung have to say about chakra traits?

I guess that shows how being greedy and materialistic (overactive root chakra) might make you cold and distant (underactive heart chakra), but might the cause of greedy materialism spring from being afraid of not getting what you want in group situations (low navel chakra?) Perhaps it's a chicken and egg question. Whichever the case might be, it does highlight the interrelatedness between the chakras--the person as a whole--who is greater than the sum of their parts.

I hadn't thought of it in those terms. Some of that makes good sense as personality theory. But my point was that Mr. Berker's questionnaire items were not working as I thought they would. The issue is the adequacy of the items used to get people's impressions of how their chakras are functioning. Maybe I don't understand the scoring scheme.

Btw, I had a little email discussion with Mr. Berkers. He refused to tell me which items pertain to Root chakra. If I wanted to crunch some numbers and do a factor analytic study - or if I was even thinking about doing one -- I'd need to know which items are being used to get at which chakra.

[Dream]

Tickle.com has some really good tests, and also unusual tests. They studied the palms of 4,000 people and came up with a personality determination algorithm based on the layout of the major lines in the palm. You go just have to answer the computer's questions about your palm. It doesn't tell the future, but its surprisingly specific with personality determination. I'll bet you could cross-connect that to reveal a person's chakra as well!

[17th Angel]

There is some rare or unique or something line on the palm of some peoples right hand! Forget what it is or what it means, but I've got that line *has a cookie in celebration*