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03-23-2007, 06:53 PM
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Re: Colour Man!
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Auras sometimes don't seem all so different.
I've met a number of people who see auras to varying degrees...
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Imo, they are all charlatans.
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03-23-2007, 06:54 PM
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Re: Colour Man!
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Isn't this already happening? Not with colors but with the filtering out of certain unfavorable genetic characteristics.
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Examples being...?
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03-23-2007, 06:59 PM
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at peace
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Re: Colour Man!
My concern is that we often fool ourselves as to what is "better". I am a stage four cancer survivor (so far). I guess I can say that I would be interested if genetic alterations were employed to alleviate this kind of suffering or something similar. But the idea also has so much potential for abuse, if you get my drift....
(And why do you think people who see auras are charlatans, by the way?)
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03-23-2007, 07:05 PM
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Re: Colour Man!
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My concern is that we often fool ourselves as to what is "better". I am a stage four cancer survivor (so far). I guess I can say that I would be interested if genetic alterations were employed to alleviate this kind of suffering or something similar. But the idea also has so much potential for abuse, if you get my drift....
(And why do you think people who see auras are charlatans, by the way?)
InPeace,
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IL, that is what I meant, to place science in the hands of the altrusitic and benign, so that the science was not misused, and that people like you could be CURED. We could do all of those things, right now, if we wanted to, if the will was there.
People that see aura's..?
Well, if they are charging money, just as mediums, etc, then imo, they are praying on the minds of those that are seeking some consolation, and that to me is pretty low.
If a medium or someone that see's aura's does it for free, then fair enough.
If they charge, they are charlatans.
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03-23-2007, 07:13 PM
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at peace
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Oh, okay.  You understand why I had to ask, right? I tend to agree with you regarding the aura thing, although in rare cases maybe it isn't all that cut and dried.
Regarding genetic alterations for the good of mankind--I think it really is scary to think about sometimes. Can we trust ourselves as a global society to use this ability with love? I am thinking how nuclear power can be used either way....
Looking forward to more responses from folks who know way more about science and technology and medicine than I....
I enjoy your posts, enlightenment. You bring up some interesting subjects.
InPeace,
InLove
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03-23-2007, 07:15 PM
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Re: Colour Man!
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I enjoy your posts, enlightenment. You bring up some interesting subjects.
InPeace,
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It's the last remaining thing that gives me any pleasure.
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03-23-2007, 07:28 PM
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at peace
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Re: Colour Man!
I am imagining a couple of political leaders making a pact or treaty of some kind that supposedly is a good thing for everyone. The crowd watching is clapping, yet they are turning strange grayish colors, one by one...and then the speakers, as they shake hands begin to turn, too...
Yikes--where are the scientific responses???
(and this is supposed to be your last outpost of pleasure, e. Here I go painting it gray...)
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03-23-2007, 07:31 PM
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Paint in whatever colour you choose, unfettered.
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03-23-2007, 07:35 PM
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Re: Colour Man!
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...Imo, they are all charlatans...
If they charge, they are charlatans.
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Over the years, run into people who discuss in conversation and those that charge...professionals..
While I agree there is an issue with folks taking advantage of others...I don't immediately throw them all in the same box. After various life experiences I find myself saying, "Yeah, right" a whole lot less than I used to...and in your first statement you added the IMO...which is powerful, as I tend to know I don't know more often...I just have my perceptions and opinions...the facts fluctuate with the observer and time...
So as for those that charge...is the professional ballplayer less because he gets paid for his skill? or the typist...or the inventor...or the priest...or the enviormentalist?
Why is it that we deem some skills should be done completely altruisticly?
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03-23-2007, 07:37 PM
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Re: Colour Man!
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Why is it that we deem some skills should be done completely altruisticly?
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All things should be done 'altruistically'.
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03-26-2007, 03:52 PM
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Re: Colour Man!
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Examples being...?
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I'm hoping someone will verify this, or say that it's definitely incorrect.
I'm sure I heard that scientists had isolated the genes or the DNA that caused, (1) certain hereditary illnesses, (2) possibly undesirable physical traits like baldness and obesity.
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03-26-2007, 04:01 PM
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Re: Colour Man!
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I'm hoping someone will verify this, or say that it's definitely incorrect.
I'm sure I heard that scientists had isolated the genes or the DNA that caused, (1) certain hereditary illnesses, (2) possibly undesirable physical traits like baldness and obesity.
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I've heard of sex selection..and talk of being able to isolate out tabs in the DNA chain...other than women/couples who go to buy sperm, and women selecting mates, I don't know of any specific manmade alterations to our species.
But I don't know of clinics that are examing the DNA in order to say...yes this sperm doesn't have these genes in them...however it is probably happening...
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03-26-2007, 04:03 PM
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Re: Colour Man!
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I'm sure I heard that scientists had isolated the genes or the DNA that caused, (1) certain hereditary illnesses, (2) possibly undesirable physical traits like baldness and obesity.
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LOL!! Bless those saviours! Scientists make my jaw drop and bounce off the floor in pure awe... I was curious I thought, Hmmm they can isolate genes in DNA? For illnesses? Could it be Cancer? Could it be AIDS? NO! Wait! Oh angels.... They spent all that time and research to save a man from getting a tupee... Heroes.
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03-26-2007, 04:05 PM
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Re: Colour Man!
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Originally Posted by wil
I've heard of sex selection..and talk of being able to isolate out tabs in the DNA chain...other than women/couples who go to buy sperm, and women selecting mates, I don't know of any specific manmade alterations to our species.
But I don't know of clinics that are examing the DNA in order to say...yes this sperm doesn't have these genes in them...however it is probably happening...
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Maybe, but unless it's a well known thing then I think it would be fair to say I was mistaken.
Thanks for clearing it up wil.
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03-26-2007, 04:42 PM
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Re: Colour Man!
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Originally Posted by cavalier
I'm hoping someone will verify this, or say that it's definitely incorrect.
I'm sure I heard that scientists had isolated the genes or the DNA that caused, (1) certain hereditary illnesses, (2) possibly undesirable physical traits like baldness and obesity.
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Eventually, mankind will come to accept how vital our genetic code is.
Isolating such genes and others, such as the gene that determines one's sexual orientation, will be a real breakthrough, for we will have scientific proof that homosexuality is not some abomination of gods will, but part of some peoples genetic code, and therefore, entirely natural.
On the other hand, when this science is mastered, it could be worrying who is in charge of it.
For example, if the Gov were v homophobic in nature, they might try to eliminate the gay gene, even though it is not a disability.
I would however support the elimination of genes that caused blindness and so on.
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