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View Poll Results: Creation or evolution?
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Creation
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Evolution
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11-14-2005, 03:47 AM
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Thirst for 'Ilmi...
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cat City, Malaysia
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Re: Creation or Evolution: The Statistics!!!
Peace to all...
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Sorry, but, God is not scotch mist, or some mysterious cold ethereal force. God has a personality. God is love, and by means of his love he cares for us like a father for his children. He is concerned about us, but the world is going the way where they are not truly concerned about him, so he has made an appointed time to intervene, whilst he watches us, and sees how much faith and love that we have in him, by remaining unseen, but his signature is everywhere. He has a name, and his written word is a medium by a way to get to know him. He asks us to. That is why he had an inspired written book set up for us. He doesn't want us to avoid him. He reveals just enough for us to get to know him. He has a purpose, and will eventually become fully interactive with us again.
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Indeed...very well said. And i would like to add that all the revelations by God is a good news for the believers and who have faith in the day of resurrection and these revelations too serve as a warning for those who deny it. And one important point to ponder is that God really wants us to get to know Him as what He truly is, not as what we want ourselves to think He is... not just that, He also wants us to perceive His works / signature as how He has made it so, ....which we can acquire through research and study in science with the guidance of His religion and also via His religion harmonize with science. Which is exactly how Alberst Einsten put it "Science w/o religion is lame, religion w/o science is blind"
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11-14-2005, 03:56 AM
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#257 (permalink)
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Rider on the storm...
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Edinburgh, scotland
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Re: Creation or Evolution: The Statistics!!!
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Originally Posted by n4h1z
Peace to all...
Indeed...very well said. And i would like to add that all the revelations by God is a good news for the believers and who have faith in the day of resurrection and these revelations too serve as a warning for those who deny it. And one important point to ponder is that God really wants us to get to know Him as what He truly is, not as what we want ourselves to think He is... not just that, He also wants us to perceive His works / signature as how He has made it so, ....which we can acquire through research and study in science with the guidance of His religion and also via His religion harmonize with science. Which is exactly how Alberst Einsten put it "Science w/o religion is lame, religion w/o science is blind" 
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When I see the word of God and not Mans words masqueradeing as Gods you can be assured I will be the first to listen.
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11-14-2005, 04:11 AM
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Thirst for 'Ilmi...
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cat City, Malaysia
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Re: Creation or Evolution: The Statistics!!!
Peace to Tao...
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When I see the word of God and not Mans words masqueradeing as Gods you can be assured I will be the first to listen.
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Then you should consider looking for it...coz it really does exist...pure, authentic and uncorrupted. Whatever you thoughts are right now, I'll pray that that you will walk on the righteous path....Amin
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11-14-2005, 02:10 PM
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Rider on the storm...
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Edinburgh, scotland
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Re: Creation or Evolution: The Statistics!!!
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Originally Posted by n4h1z
Peace to Tao...
Then you should consider looking for it...coz it really does exist...pure, authentic and uncorrupted. Whatever you thoughts are right now, I'll pray that that you will walk on the righteous path....Amin 
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With respect I have had a pretty good look at most mainstream faiths and rejected them because to my mind they are all a good way removed from the God I feel in my heart and see around me every moment. Perhaps your faith lets you have a dialogue with God but it is meaningless to me. Words like pure, authentic and uncorrupted may be your interpretation of what you read but they do not fit with the facts as I know them. I do not have a dialogue with God but I feel and see its presence in me and everything whenever I care to look. As for walking a rightcheous path I live a life full of love and never knowingly cause harm to anybody or any creature and I promote these same things in my children and in my words. As your faith believes in a judgement day I would ask you in my case to leave it to that higher authority you profess so much faith in to judge me. As you do not know me nor understand me you are clearly not qualified to do so.
With respect
TE
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11-17-2005, 02:44 AM
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Thirst for 'Ilmi...
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cat City, Malaysia
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Re: Creation or Evolution: The Statistics!!!
Peace to Tao...
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With respect I have had a pretty good look at most mainstream faiths and rejected them because to my mind they are all a good way removed from the God I feel in my heart and see around me every moment.
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Maybe that only applies to you and a few others who has the same perception as you do... But not to more than 3.415 Billion people of mainstream faiths...and i believe these group of people are not Dumb to blindly follow teachings which will deviate them from God. Personally, are you denying the ability of some 3.415 Billion people to grasp and see the rational of mainstream faiths? Whatever it is, its' your right to think and i have no right to stop you, but i have the right to know why...so i won't argue any further about it unless i need to.
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Perhaps your faith lets you have a dialogue with God but it is meaningless to me. Words like pure, authentic and uncorrupted may be your interpretation of what you read but they do not fit with the facts as I know them. I do not have a dialogue with God but I feel and see its presence in me and everything whenever I care to look.
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Yes, you are absolutely correct...i have dialogue with my God, but I get His replies indirectly. He replied to me through the blessings that i get,the food that i eat, the peaceful country that i live in, the love that i received from others etc.I ask Him for prosperity, He gave me hardship to endure. I ask Him to let others to love me, He sent me hateful people to dealt with. I ask for His guidance, He showed me a long path with obstacles to walk through. I get nothing that i ask for, yet i get all that I want. My God is neither deaf nor dumb. He answered my request none other than with His unlimited wisdom.And the words like pure, authentic and uncorrupted that i've used is not my own interpretation, but it was my God Himself who said it. And if it doesn't fit you, fine...i have nothing to loose.
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As for walking a rightcheous path I live a life full of love and never knowingly cause harm to anybody or any creature and I promote these same things in my children and in my words. As your faith believes in a judgement day I would ask you in my case to leave it to that higher authority you profess so much faith in to judge me. As you do not know me nor understand me you are clearly not qualified to do so.
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You are truly correct, I have no right to judge you as i don't know you well.I also have no right to say heaven or hell to anybody of other faiths. But my God does, and He is the best Judge there is. I believe He will respond to ones' good deeds or sins eventhough the size of mere speck.I think this might lead to interesting topic for a new thread..."Day of Judgement, yes or no"... or is there already one?
Peace...
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