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Old 11-11-2006, 11:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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believe we all know what Jews think of Jesus.

Guess what this is a Christianity Forum.
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not all jews.
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Romans 11 I just covered on a different thread.. they are blind for the moment.
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not all jews.
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sorry for questioning!
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Old 11-12-2006, 06:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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sorry for questioning!
Question away. But do not reject the answers that are forth coming. Your criteria for the Messiah is rather limited in scope. In addition to what you've presented Shadowman, the proceeding are also required:

(1) Be the "seed of the woman" that would bruise the serpent's heel (Genesis 3:15; Galatians 4:4; 1 John 3:8)

(2) Be the "seed of Abraham" (Genesis 12:3; Matthew 1:1; Acts 3:25; Galatians 3:16)

(3) Be the "seed of Isaac" (Genesis 17:19, 21:12; Matthew 1:2; Luke 3:34; Hebrews 11:17-19)

(4) Be the "seed of Jacob" (Numbers 24:17-19; Matthew 1:2; Luke 3:34; Revelation 22:16)

(5) - Be a descendant of Judah (Genesis 49:10; Matthew 1:2-3; Luke 3:33; Hebrews 7:14)

(6) Be a descendant of David and heir to his throne (2 Sam. 7:12-13; Isaiah 9:6-7, 11:1-5; Jeremiah 23:5; Matthew 1:1-6; Luke 1:32-33; Romans 1:1-4)

(7) Be declared the Son of God (Psalms 2:7; Proverbs 30:4; Matthew 3:17; Luke 1:32)

(8) Come at a specific time, 483 yrs.after the rebuilding of the wall of Jerusalem (Daniel 9:24-26; Luke 2:1-2)

(9) Be born in Bethlehem, in Judah (Micah 5:1-2; Luke 2:4-7)

(10) Be born of a virgin (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:18-21; Luke 1:26-35)

(11) Have fled to Egypt (Hosea 11:1; Matthew 2:14-15)

(12) Be adored by great persons (Psalms 72:10-11, Matthew 2:1-11)

(13) Be preceded by one who would announce him (Isaiah 40:3-5; Malachi 3:1; Matthew 3:1-3; Luke 1:17, 3:2-6, 7:24-27)

(14) Be a prophet (Deuteronomy 18:15; Acts 3:20-22)

(15) Have a ministry to heal the brokenhearted (Isaiah 61:1-2; Luke 4:18-19)

(16) Have a ministry of healing (Isaiah 35:5-6; Matthew 11:5)

(17) Have a ministry in Galilee (Isaiah 9:1-2; Matthew 4:12-16)

(18) Be sinless (Isaiah 53:9; 1 Peter 2:22; Hebrews 4:15)

(19) Be a priest in the order of Melchizedek (Psalms 110:4; Hebrews 5:5-6, 6:20, 7:15-17)

(20) Enter publicly into Jerusalem on a donkey (Zechariah 9:9; Matthew 21:1-11; Mark 11:1-11)

(21) Be hated without reason (Psalm 35:19; Isaiah 49:7; John 15:24-25)

(22) Be rejected by his own people, the Jews (Psalms 69:8-9; Isaiah 53:3; John 1:11; Luke 23:18)

(23) Be plotted against by Jews and Gentiles together (Psalms 2:1-2; Acts 4:27)

(24) Be accused by false witness (Psalm 35:11; Mark 14:57-58)

(25) Be betrayed by a friend (Psalms 41:9; Matthew 26:21-25; John 13:18-21; Luke 22:47-48)

(26) Be sold for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11:12; Matthew 26:15)

(27) Be silent to accusations (Isaiah 53:7; Mark 15:4-5)

(28) Have his price given for a potter’s field (Zechariah 11:13, Matthew 27:7-10)

(29) Be a vicarious sacrifice (Isaiah 53:5; Romans 5:6-8)

(30) Be spat on (Isaiah 50:6; Matthew 26:67)

(31) Be mocked (Ps. 22:7-8; Matthew 27:31, 39-44; Luke 23:35)

(32) Be beaten (Isaiah 50:6; Matthew 26:67)

(33) Be crucified with malefactors (Isaiah 53:12; Mark 15:27-28)

(34) Be pierced through His hands and feet (Ps. 22:16-17; Zechariah 12:10; John 20:27; Revelation 1:7)

(35) Be thirsty during His execution (Psalm 22:15-16; John 19:28)

(36) Be given vinegar to quench His thirst (Psalm 69:21-22; Matthew 27:34)

(37) Have prayed for His enemies (Psalm 109:4; Luke 23:34)

(38) Be executed without having a bone broken (Psalm 34:20; John 19:32-33, 36)
(39) Be pierced in His side (Zechariah 12:10; John 19:34)

(40) Have soldiers gamble for his garments (Psalm 22:17-18; Matthew 27:35-36)

(41) Be the one whose death would atone for the sins of mankind (Isaiah 53:5-7,12; Mark 10:45; John 1:29, 3:16)

(42) Be buried with the rich when dead (Isaiah 53:9, Matthew 27:57-60)

(43) Be raised from the dead (Psalm 16:10, 49:15; Matthew 28:1-20, Mark 16:6-7; Acts 2:23-36, 13:33-37, 1 Corinthians 15:4-6)

(44) Ascend to the right hand of God (Psalms 16:9-11, 68:18, 110:1; Mark 16:19; Luke 24:51; Acts 1:9-11, 7:55-56; Hebrews 1:3)

(45) Be the cornerstone of God's Messianic Believing Community (Psalms 118:22-23; Isaiah 28:16; Matthew 21:42; Ephesians 2:20; 1 Peter 2:5-7)


Only one person has fulfilled these requirements, so far. Perhaps the rest is for future proof, for a future people to see.

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