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Old 11-01-2011, 05:05 PM   #16 (permalink)
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The Big Five Personality Test
Extraversion 3.8
Agreeableness 4.1
Conscientiousness 2.3
Neuroticism 1.6
Openness 4.9

Using their results pooled accross all occupations, your job performance will be -3.31% higher than average.

Jung Typology Test
Introverted 11
Intuitive 88
Feeling 38
Judging 33

slightly expressed introvert
very expressed intuitive personality
moderately expressed feeling personality
moderately expressed perceiving personality
Yep, fits me kinda well. I am horribly disorganized and have trouble being focused (low conscientiousness score).


I have always scored INFJ.

Now what does all this mean? Pax et amore omnia vincunt!
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The scale says you are selfish.

According to your words, you don't go to your loved ones and ask them whether you are being loving, but instead think that personal introspection of your personality will reveal it to you.
They are free to tell me, without fear of reprimand, knowing I will listen to them.

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Similarly, being honest is a matter of speaking those words which are not fabricated for your personal pleasure, even in the face of a man with a record of violence.
And your point is?
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The Big Five Personality Test
Extraversion 3.8
Agreeableness 4.1
Conscientiousness 2.3
Neuroticism 1.6
Openness 4.9

Using their results pooled accross all occupations, your job performance will be -3.31% higher than average.

Jung Typology Test
Introverted 11
Intuitive 88
Feeling 38
Judging 33

slightly expressed introvert
very expressed intuitive personality
moderately expressed feeling personality
moderately expressed perceiving personality
Yep, fits me kinda well. I am horribly disorganized and have trouble being focused (low conscientiousness score).


I have always scored INFJ.

Now what does all this mean? Pax et amore omnia vincunt!
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Old 11-01-2011, 06:45 PM   #19 (permalink)
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That would make me a INTP? It does describe me to the letter. According to the Keirsey Temperament Website I'm an Architect, so with my "what animal are you" I would be a architectual mountain goat! I have a strong urge to sketch some concept art around such a character.
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They are free to tell me, without fear of reprimand, knowing I will listen to them.

And your point is?
You are proving the scale correct. Reprimand can be unpleasant, and loving is more than listening.
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You are proving the scale correct. Reprimand can be unpleasant, and loving is more than listening.
Like demanding sacrifice? Sounds more like extortion to me.
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Like demanding sacrifice? Sounds more like extortion to me.
Who is demanding your love? Why do you call it extortion?

I was just providing a scale to measure whether a person has the personality of being selfish or loving. Are you calling such a tarot test: extortion?
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Like demanding sacrifice? Sounds more like extortion to me.
Who is demanding your love? Why do you call it extortion?

I was just providing a scale to measure whether a person has the personality of being selfish or loving. Are you calling such a tarot test: extortion?
You used the word sacrifice first, then changed it to "being loving." Sounds like selfish extortion to me.

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Here is another personality measure then: Selfishness vs Sacrifice.

1. Do you think that self evaluated answers to a question describes your personality?

I may add more tarot cards to the deck, but for now just one question should suffice.
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Have you twisted the meaning for a selfish pursuit? It looks like you have twisted that a perfect 180 degrees. I am amazed, but I have seen it before.

Very well. Love is a more appropriate word. My scale is the selfish-loving scale, and in pretense I will measure it by the answer to a question:

Do you think your self evaluated answer to a question describes your personality?

Your answer can rank your personality on a scale between being selfish, and loving.
Word games.

Tell me, do I get sent off to the Ministry of Love if I am judged to be selfish?
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A thought on selfish vs loving. I don't think they are mutually exclusive. I know that I have the ultimate responsibility for my needs, and if I'm to love others I must first see to my needs. It's a balance I think.

I sometimes have a hard time to follow your reasoning luecy7, I think you might be using words or concepts without defining them, and I'm not sure we have the same definition of selfish, sacrifice, love and so on.
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Me a counselor? The last time I tried that was when I retired and tried to get hired by an unnamed family planning organization. They promptly turned my name over to the Sherriff ("he said he would have no problems using the props to show how to use condoms and dams"). Before that I kept getting in trouble for having (either sex) really young friends who would visit me (parents trusted me, though, and I always checked on permissions).

Nope, think I will stay a risk analyst/financial manager.

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You can do whet you wish Radar, but you'll still "have an exceptionally strong desire to contribute to the welfare of others, and find great personal fulfillment interacting with people, nurturing their personal development, guiding them to realize their human potential"

EDIT: Your post in "Do Jews and Christians worship the same God?" just proves this!
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You used the word sacrifice first, then changed it to "being loving." Sounds like selfish extortion to me.
I don't think you can make someone reciprocate love. Can you? In that sense, love is a sacrifice: either time, or resource, or something. Do you agree? I believe you can seek someone's agreement ahead of time, which is important, but not a guarantee.

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Word games.
Certainly not my intention.

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Tell me, do I get sent off to the Ministry of Love if I am judged to be selfish?
Since you say you are introverted, judging yourself on whether or not you are anything, it was interesting that you proclaimed you need to send yourself to an occasional timeout... is that your Ministry of Love?
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You can do whet you wish Radar, but you'll still "have an exceptionally strong desire to contribute to the welfare of others, and find great personal fulfillment interacting with people, nurturing their personal development, guiding them to realize their human potential"

EDIT: Your post in "Do Jews and Christians worship the same God?" just proves this!

ACOT- It was in jext, I assure you! But, given what the laws are like now (not that they did not have to be changed to protect women and children), I just do not stand a chance.

Like Four bosses ago, my boss was this real do-getter Abenaki PhD female. They day she was fired (I did not know at the time) I patted her on the head (something I do... had a female at current job snap at me when I touched her arm to get her attention, yeah I should have known but she has not talked to me since) and asked if I could help. She said I just did. Next thing I know cops are there questining me about sexual harrassment (glad 7 other scientists/engineers saw the incident). Just born a few years too late or lived a few too long.

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I don't think you can make someone reciprocate love.
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Can you? In that sense, love is a sacrifice: either time, or resource, or something. Do you agree?
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Since you say you are introverted, judging yourself on whether or not you are anything, it was interesting that you proclaimed you need to send yourself to an occasional timeout... is that your Ministry of Love?
nope. nice dodge
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That is why I see love as like a sacrifice, or a gift of kindness. Whether or not another ever reciprocates, is never really a given.

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nope. nice dodge
Dodging your propagandist fabrications? No, certainly not. If I have a disagreement or altercation with someone like my wife, we talk about it: would you call that dodging? What do you do?

With the test that I presented, I am really speaking against the selfish and impotent behavior of all psychiatry, and most especially a few Swiss personalities: Carl Jung and Hermann Rorschach. Does that look like a dodge to you?

For example, in defiance of the test that you promoted here, and to promote what I view is a healthier measure of self within relationships than what a selfish psychiatrist promotes, I asked my wife to answer the questions from your website, according to her judgment. Per the website, in her judgment I am an INTJ, with a moderate INT, and a strong J. I answered the questions for myself, and according to the website I am an INTP, with a moderate INT and a slight P. So, according to your webiste I am either a mastermind, or an architect. The difference in perception is interesting. My wife suggested we reverse the test to compare our perceptions of her. We will do the other website, but the questions change depending on the answers, so we will have to redo it. Similarly, I will get my kids involved to answer too, and even present their evaluation. With this approach to seeking each other's judgment, the foolishness of someone like Carl Jung can be put to some use without adopting his beliefs, nor the blind relationship that such a psychiatrist prefers.

It seems the results so far were not what you expected. Have you watched that movie Cars 2? We purchased and watched it last night. What kind of a car does a tao truck prefer?
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