Dawkins-Inspired Discussion from YouTube

[juantoo3]

Just thought I would be of assistance and offer the thread anyway:

http://www.comparative-religion.com/...highlight=meme

[shadowman]

meme is osmetiyng that helps a purpose like society right?

i cant remember

morals help us keep society going

differnt societies have different morals

but it works within the society


if everyone did theri own thing

either some responsible people would need multiple wives

or else society would crumble and our race would dwindle.

[libertylover76]

Originally Posted by spid3rboy

beyond myself.

you guys have a good night, I'm out.

spid3rboy,

There's a whole universe beyond me. That doesn't mean I need to postulate a god/gods to make my life meaningful.

When we started this discussion it was because you had made a claim about the logical conclusion of Dawkins' train of thought that was incorrect. You still haven't explained why Darwinian evolution necessitates that we not care about the suffering of people outside of our circle of friends and family.

Could you elaborate on that?

[m16150]

Besides, if I may leave you with but one thought...Why are we moral if we are not naturally inclined to be, and G-d does not exist?

[pfw]

I've read 'The God Delusion'- Dawkins is indeed a very cleaver man- he makes evolution an interesting and exciting thing to read about, makes some of the more difficult concepts easier to understand with out talking down to the lay-person and obviously knows his stuff when it comes to that. On other things I found him a bit arrogent and did exactly what he accused others who argue against his belief that here is no God etc. 1st off he quotes Theologians in the same way he moans about religious people quoting scientists- single statements taken out of their original context so the reader has no reference other than Dawkins own interpritation. 2nd he bangs on about what a 'mind/conciousness expanding thing evolution is and isn't it a pity physisiyts/ cosmologists haven't got a theory to match it that shows how complexity arises from simplicity' What an arrogent statement- what does he think the Big Bang theory does? (I'll leave you to work that one out-or ask and I'll explain my point). 3rd his understanding of the religious experiance and the 'nature' of God is simplistic and shows a complete lack of understanding, let alone research into the subject. He is a genius, he is definatly worth listening to and some of his anti-religion (not God) arguments do have merrit. I don't find him offensive, I do admire his obvious knowledge and passion for his subject, which I find quite contagious, but basing any belief or non belief soley on what he says is as dangerous (and stupid) as being a Catholic simply because your priest told you to be one.