Dear Sirs

[cyberpi]

InLove,
Thank you, and thank you for sharing the letter... I certainly learned from it.

On the doctrine of exclusiveness... is that from a different thread? If you mean God and heaven, then I certainly agree that it is worthwhile assuming that it is available to all. I think God does have some requirements, but I am also certain that no man can come between a person and God. I know it seems that way when people like myself try to point to a way they think works for them. It seems to me like just one of those things that has to be privately sought after. If you meant exclusiveness in terms of a marriage or any other relationship between people on Earth, then I am without comment... maybe a different thread.

I can also see and maybe we would agree in rejecting the concept of 'salvation by knowledge' or 'salvation by intelligence'... which I'm adding to your comment on 'grace'. I find that like any other body part, that the mind and whatever intelligence a person is dealt can be used for good or for bad. I submit that it is not a matter of having intelligence, but in the way that it is used. I probably speak there comfortably as an engineer who went to work with one.

All actions and words come from the mind, so I don't want to belittle it, but I can see the frustration in viewing life as an intellectual exercise... especially on a forum. I will flat out say that I learned there are some answers that can not be seen by any amount of intelligence or any volume of information read. I agree that there are tangible differences that result from loving others, from repenting known sins, from forgiving others, and from placing faith in each other... to name a few, and I do see them as something available to anyone.

[InLove]

Okay--something strange with this thread! I see you have posted, cyberpi, but now yours isn't showing up, just like mine didn't. So I am posting this to see if it will "bump" again. Wonder what's up?

I won't have time to respond in full for a few hours, probably, but thanks for the reply. In the meantime, let's see if the bump works.

InPeace,
InLove

Edited by InLove to add: Yay! It worked. I'll post a proper response as soon as I can. Maybe the thread will be working better by then.

[InLove]

Hi cyberpi--sorry for the delay. I have been visiting family, so haven't had much time to post.

Originally Posted by cyberpi

Thank you, and thank you for sharing the letter... I certainly learned from it.

Thank you, too--you added the missing dimension to the meaning of the words. You completed the thoughts. LOL--Am I Charlotte and you Templeton? Or is it the other way around? Or maybe neither and something else entirely?

Originally Posted by cyberpi

On the doctrine of exclusiveness... is that from a different thread? If you mean God and heaven, then I certainly agree that it is worthwhile assuming that it is available to all. I think God does have some requirements, but I am also certain that no man can come between a person and God. I know it seems that way when people like myself try to point to a way they think works for them. It seems to me like just one of those things that has to be privately sought after. If you meant exclusiveness in terms of a marriage or any other relationship between people on Earth, then I am without comment... maybe a different thread.

My reference to the "doctrine of exclusiveness" doesn't come from any one particular thread. I think I may have seen the term used here and there, but really I was just trying to describe any view that seeks to exclude anyone from the grace of God. In short, I don't believe it is up to me to tell anyone that they may be designed for eternal doom. I think this kills hope and opposes Life.

Originally Posted by cyberpi

I can also see and maybe we would agree in rejecting the concept of 'salvation by knowledge' or 'salvation by intelligence'... which I'm adding to your comment on 'grace'. I find that like any other body part, that the mind and whatever intelligence a person is dealt can be used for good or for bad. I submit that it is not a matter of having intelligence, but in the way that it is used. I probably speak there comfortably as an engineer who went to work with one.

I concur most wholeheartedly.

So you're an engineer? I thought you might be something along those lines. Cool. It makes me giddy just to think that you and I can successfully communicate, 'cause some of that stuff y'all do is way up over my hat sometimes! But I sure do appreciate the fact that you can do it.

Originally Posted by cyberpi

All actions and words come from the mind, so I don't want to belittle it, but I can see the frustration in viewing life as an intellectual exercise... especially on a forum. I will flat out say that I learned there are some answers that can not be seen by any amount of intelligence or any volume of information read. I agree that there are tangible differences that result from loving others, from repenting known sins, from forgiving others, and from placing faith in each other... to name a few, and I do see them as something available to anyone.

I can't help but think that in each person's mind, there is actually a formula or a logical explanation. I mean, it makes so much sense inside our own minds. The only problem is, when we speak it for someone else, it isn't true for them. In saying this, I don't mean that there is no Absolute Truth. It is just that each and every one of us must relate to the Absolute in the way we are given. Oh...I am really terrible at this sort of speaking--I wonder if it is making any sense to an engineer?

Anyway, thanks again, cyberpi--don't be surprised if you find bits of your wisdom in some verse or poem or song somewhere along my own path.

And also, thank you pathless and luna and Star and everyone who posted thoughts here recently. I hope you don't feel I was ignoring them. I just had to find out what cyberpi was saying, because it was something I needed to dwell on to better understand what I had written down. Hope that makes sense! It all works together....

InPeace,
InLove

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by InLove

InPeace,
InLove

Hey InLove,

Been off the boards myself so my ignorance is bliss

Speak soon,

s.

[InLove]

Hey Snoop

Go on vacation from CR? Now? Why on earth would anyone want to do that???

Yes, we make much good talk soon. For now, I leave you with this:













Ahhhh.....

InPeace,
InLove

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by InLove

Hey Snoop
Go on vacation from CR? Now? Why on earth would anyone want to do that???
InPeace,
InLove

Of some delights, I believe, a little goes a long way.

s.