death is swallowed up

[Faithfulservant]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

You'll have to do better than that Ace. I got Cyberpi breathing down my neck, and I'm simply stating Christ's purpose and man's collective take on the matter. He makes all Christians look like idiots, and no one will defend against his arguement. It gets old, fighting, and not being defended huh...

too many christians, none collected tight for Christ...that's why we get our ass kicked.

Ive thought this a time or two myself

[mee]

How would it be possible to cover the enormous loss that Adam inflicted on all of us and to release us from slavery to sin and death?
Since a perfect human life was lost, no imperfect human life could ever buy it back. (Psalm 49:7, 8) What was needed was a ransom equal in value to what was lost.
So, what would cover the value of the perfect human soul, or life, that Adam lost? Another perfect human life was the "corresponding ransom" that was required.—1 Timothy 2:6.
How did Jehovah provide the ransom? He sent one of his perfect spirit sons to the earth. But Jehovah did not send just any spirit creature. He sent the one most precious to him, his only-begotten Son. (1 John 4:9, 10) Willingly, this Son left his heavenly home. (Philippians 2:7)
By means of God’s holy spirit, Jesus was born as a perfect human and was not under the penalty of sin.—Luke 1:35.
Adam lost the precious possession of perfect human life. Hence, he could not pass it on to his offspring. Instead, he could pass on only sin and death. Jesus, whom the Bible calls "the last Adam," had a perfect human life, and he never sinned. (1 Corinthians 15:45) In a sense, Jesus stepped into Adam’s place in order to save us. By sacrificing, or giving up, his perfect life in flawless obedience to God, Jesus paid the price for Adam’s sin. Jesus thus brought hope to Adam’s offspring.—Romans 5:19; 1 Corinthians 15:21, 22.

[BlaznFattyz]

Originally Posted by mee

the prophets that wrote bible prophecy were inspired by God ,so those bible prophecies will aways come true , and the date 1914 was right on time . thrilling times indeed . Jesus is now a reigning king . yes Gods representative on the throne is now ruling . keeping awake to bible prophecies means that we dont fall asleep .
Jesus told his disciples that Jerusalem would be "trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations [Gentiles] are fulfilled." (Luke 21:24) Obviously, Jesus gave his followers this information in order to help them identify the time of the end, for it is a part of his answer to the question: "Teacher, when will these things actually be, and what will be the sign when these things are destined to occur?"—Luke 21:7. yes in these last days many signs are with us , because bible prophecies are now well along in the stream of time . those early bible students did well to keep awake because now they are understanding more and more in this time of the end. but many fell right to sleep and now they are in the darkness to the enlightenment from Jehovah.

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[mee]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

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Despite our sinful condition, we can enjoy priceless blessings because of the ransom.
The forgiveness of sins
He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love, 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins colossians 1 ;13-14
A clean conscience before God.
For if the blood of goats and of bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who have been defiled sanctifies to the extent of cleanness of the flesh, 14 how much more will the blood of the Christ, who through an everlasting spirit offered himself without blemish to God, cleanse our consciences from dead works that we may render sacred service to [the] living God?hebrews9;13-14
The hope of everlasting life on a paradise earth.
For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.romans 6;23
life everlasting in perfect health, are made possible because Jesus died for us. To receive those blessings, we need to show that we appreciate the gift of the ransom.

[mee]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

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dont let fullfilled bible prophecy disturb you ,it is GOODNEWS Jesus will accomplish many things and swallowing up death will be the final enemy to go .
Its destruction is figuratively likened to its being hurled into a "lake of fire."—Re 20:14; death will be swallowed up forever
(Revelation 20:14) And death and Ha´des were hurled into the lake of fire. This means the second death, the lake of fire...................yes , death and the common grave of mankind(hades)will be no more ............ that is something to look foreward to .real GOODNEWS

[BlaznFattyz]

Originally Posted by mee

Despite our sinful condition, we can enjoy priceless blessings because of the ransom.
The forgiveness of sins
He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love, 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins colossians 1 ;13-14
A clean conscience before God.
For if the blood of goats and of bulls and the ashes of a heifer sprinkled on those who have been defiled sanctifies to the extent of cleanness of the flesh, 14 how much more will the blood of the Christ, who through an everlasting spirit offered himself without blemish to God, cleanse our consciences from dead works that we may render sacred service to [the] living God?hebrews9;13-14
The hope of everlasting life on a paradise earth.
For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord.romans 6;23
life everlasting in perfect health, are made possible because Jesus died for us. To receive those blessings, we need to show that we appreciate the gift of the ransom.

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[pattimax]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

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Mee,

I Really wish you understood. SCROLL, SCROLL, SCROLL...

Your ORIGINAL thoughts! Not the W.T.'s.

[Silas]

"Death is Dead!"

Here's a 4 min clip of Ravi Zacharias speaking about death being swallowed up. Christians will love this clip. JWs might not...unless God is regenerating you and making you born of His Spirit.

[pattimax]

Yes... "Let My People Think."

[Silas]

Amen!

[mee]

Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

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i cannot remember verses from the bible word for word so i copy them from my online bible .......... do you have a problem with that ? i dont maybe when i am perfect after a 1,000 years my brain will work better and the new scrolls that are around then will come to mind easier.
To live forever, both Armageddon survivors and resurrected ones will have to obey God’s commandments, including whatever new requirements Jehovah might reveal during the thousand years. those individuals will be judged on the basis of what they do during Judgment Day.

[pattimax]

Originally Posted by mee

i cannot remember verses from the bible word for word so i copy them from my online bible .......... do you have a problem with that ? i dont maybe when i am perfect after a 1,000 years my brain will work better and the new scrolls that are around then will come to mind easier.
To live forever, both Armageddon survivors and resurrected ones will have to obey God’s commandments, including whatever new requirements Jehovah might reveal during the thousand years. those individuals will be judged on the basis of what they do during Judgment Day.

No, I do not think that is what was meant. No one would expect that. It would just be very nice to talk to you and not the NWT or the WT.

You give the impression that your mind has not been transformed but molded or "fashioned".

[BlaznFattyz]

Originally Posted by pattimax

No, I do not think that is what was meant. No one would expect that. It would just be very nice to talk to you and not the NWT or the WT.

You give the impression that your mind has not been transformed but molded or "fashioned".

yes, thank you.

[17th Angel]

JW's are the robotic sheep

I should know I spent a few years with them... And nearly as one of them... *queue dark scary music.*


It is kind of annoying, there are a few threads here where I have tried to question/challange you... and all you do is paste the watchtower babble... I can pretty much remember word for word that stuff... I am not interested in that. I want to know what you think... You say you do it because you haven't a bible? or cannot remember bits of the bible? There is a bible on the watchtower site... Couldn't you quotes us a few verses and then say what they truly mean to you? Not what you are being told they mean to you.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

JW's are the robotic sheep

I should know I spent a few years with them... And nearly as one of them... *queue dark scary music.*


It is kind of annoying, there are a few threads here where I have tried to question/challange you... and all you do is paste the watchtower babble... I can pretty much remember word for word that stuff... I am not interested in that. I want to know what you think... You say you do it because you haven't a bible? or cannot remember bits of the bible? There is a bible on the watchtower site... Couldn't you quotes us a few verses and then say what they truly mean to you? Not what you are being told they mean to you.

If a man can't remember what he reads, he can't remember what he reads. Are we to bust his chops for what he is told to read? Truly, it just means what is said is not to be taken seriously (if a man can't put his own jh behind his words).

Surely what was said is the truth. He can't remember what he's read. We can let it go at that right?

He's convicted himself, no need for us to do the same.