Define sport, sport.

[wil]

Originally Posted by InLove

No politics in golf???

professionally....sure....do business meetings and power brokers use the three hours to network...sure...

I don't golf a lot...really not at all...but I spent some time out last year...none this year...but the challenge of hitting the little ball in as few strokes as possible is incredible...and then the whole metaphor out there only cheating yourself...cursing under your breath...lot to be learned on the links...about yourself...

Maybe that is why business people like to use the golf course....sure let him say he got 6 on that hole....now I know how honest he is... Wow, he just got so pissed he through a $200 club into the water...do I really want to do business with him??

[InLove]

Originally Posted by wil

professionally....sure....do business meetings and power brokers use the three hours to network...sure...

I don't golf a lot...really not at all...but I spent some time out last year...none this year...but the challenge of hitting the little ball in as few strokes as possible is incredible...and then the whole metaphor out there only cheating yourself...cursing under your breath...lot to be learned on the links...about yourself...

Maybe that is why business people like to use the golf course....sure let him say he got 6 on that hole....now I know how honest he is... Wow, he just got so pissed he through a $200 club into the water...do I really want to do business with him??

Well, I guess as long as the guy throws his club in the water, at least it isn't a violent or dangerous sport. But then if turns to his opponent with a mad look in his eye, while brandishing a pricey new nine iron....eek. No, I wouldn't want to strke up any deals with him.

I've not golfed much, either, but the few times I've been on the course, I have really enjoyed it. I love the water, too. I just find that there is so much I can't do well on land, but the water is like a different dimension. Water sports and activities seem to come naturally to me (I sure do miss it when I am in a situation that restricts me in this regard). I like watching them, sometimes, too. How about those cliff divers? Wow.

[wil]

Originally Posted by InLove

Water sports and activities seem to come naturally to me (I sure do miss it when I am in a situation that restricts me in this regard). I like watching them, sometimes, too. How about those cliff divers? Wow.

Cliff Divers...Wild World of Sports....the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat...how many years did we watch that ski jumper crash??

I don't see cliff diving competitions any more, I remember them judging the swells...and the natives that dove off the towers...early bungee jumpin rite of passage..

Swimming, water skiing, tubing, white water, canoe, kayak, hiking, camping...more participatory sport I enjoy...not competitive just fun...

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by wil

ahhh participatory sports....an entirely different matter...

Those that actually require some energy...skiing, soccer, baseball, ultimate...

And then those laid back, where adult beverages are often part of participation...golf, horseshoes, shuffleboard, frisbee

Yeah that kind of sport different story

After "adult beverages...." Here we just call it beer.... You should have put fan violence!

[cavalier]

This is a tough one for me, I get your point but I've always loved sports and will play and watch almost anything.
I've been watching the Bonds run chase with interest, apparently many fans want his stats to have an asterisk. That seems absurd to me but there will always be a cloud of suspicion over his name. Then there's the Tour de France, a truly great sporting and cultural institution which now lies in tatters. It doesn't even matter if people dope anymore, the fact is that if someone has a good day others to point the finger and ask questions. If we get through a tour with no one caught then people will feel that something has gone wrong with testing procedure.
Away from doping, there's also the influence of gambling. Referees and players from all sports and all countries are taking bribes.

I'll keep watching though, and keep getting excited or depressed by the results. I believe that sports are about 90% clean, maybe I'm naive, but maybe you're too cynical.



I would also say that I have no problem with players getting paid so much, although I do think they should try and do something with their fame and money, try and give something back to the community.

[wil]

ahh doping...a horse of yet another color...

where are they gonna draw the line on bionic chemically enhanced people...

between steroids, hgh, and whatever else performance enhancing thing they can come up with...

Of course one American lost is gold because he downhilled or slalomed the olympics high on marijuana...a drug whose claim to fame is lethargy and reudced of motor skills...

Now major league baseball takes some pitchers before they are even injured and drills holes through their bones in the elbow and ties the two together with a tendon so the joint won't get ripped apart by their fastball...