Different 'types' of Christianity - Page 2

Proph 1 · 07-08-2005, 05:32 AM

PS: The rapture is described in the Old Testment, it isnt a new concept!

mee · 07-08-2005, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Proph 1

Yeah, but I didnt mean the JWH bunch. I ment those that adhear to the Bible as a reverlation from God, written from a Jewish perspective to all the nations of the world.

i didnt mention the name JW ,still jesus did say that his followers would be recognized by their fruits so it seems actions speak louder than words because you seem to recognize JW as the ones doing these things ........

Proph 1 · 07-08-2005, 10:22 AM

I do reconize the JW's for preaching a gospel. Albeit, not the Gospel of the Bible that I believe, but nonetheless a gospel. Also, they do it with a zeal that I wish more mainstream Christians would do it with. They seem to take on more brave personer when witnessing. Again, I wish more Christians would do it. That said, I asked for you to join me in a friendly debate, would you join me?

Thanks!

mee · 07-08-2005, 01:15 PM

see you around the board then ,i sometimes put my little bit in but tend to watch the fireworks LOL

Awaiting_the_fifth · 07-08-2005, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Haruko

Why are there different types of Christianity?

Because back in the middle ages, in the days of Martin Luther, the Catholic Church was largely a political organisation which did not practice the faith taught by jesus. It was corrupt, dominated by the aristocracy and obsessed with keeping its own power.

So a whole bunch of different people, like Martin Luther and John Calvin decided to just ignore the Church in Rome and set up their own religions which they believed followed the traditions started by Jesus more closely.

Then there were arguments about what was the best way to do this, so these new churches split into more churches.

Today the catholic church once again tries to follow the teachings of Jesus, but many people have grown up with other branches of christianity and are unwilling to change the small (and honestly largely irrelevant) points of dogma which seperate them.

Also, I know some people just like to be part of a smaller church organisation.

Quahom1 · 07-09-2005, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bandit

OMG

that is like the funniest thing i have seen on here in weeks.
i know what you mean, is not what you mean, but i know what you mean.

"...I know you think you believe you understand what I said, but I'm not sure you realise, that what you heard, was not what I meant..."

I eh, have this posted on my office wall, with a finger pointing to it.

v/r

Q

juantoo3 · 07-09-2005, 02:57 AM

Kindest Regards!

I am pleased my comment was found amusing.

However, I said what I meant and I meant what I said. What got overlooked in my statement of extremes is all the the stuff "up to"...and that is where St. Augustine's principles come in. Try everything peaceable first, then discussion, then defense if a blow is given to you, then pre-emptive if defense is insufficient, and ONLY as a very last resort does one send another to meet their maker. It is similar at a personal level to that of a national level, except a person cannot (legally) declare war on a government. Interpersonal wars go on all the time. Even when peace is the desired goal. I like the way Max Ehrman said it, "as much as lieth in you, without surrender, be on good terms with all people." (my emphasis)

juantoo3 · 07-09-2005, 03:03 AM

BTW, Q,

Love that quote! Haven't heard it in a very long time.

I also like the one about stress:

Stress is, the confusion created when one's mind overrides the body's basic desire to choke the living sh*t out of some a**hole who desperately needs it!!!

Good thing I'm not too stressed, eh?

Quahom1 · 07-09-2005, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by juantoo3

BTW, Q,

Love that quote! Haven't heard it in a very long time.

I also like the one about stress:

Stress is, the confusion created when one's mind overrides the body's basic desire to choke the living sh*t out of some a**hole who desperately needs it!!!

Good thing I'm not too stressed, eh?

I'm ah, staying out of arm's reach...just in case.

v/r

Q

Bandit · 07-09-2005, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

"...I know you think you believe you understand what I said, but I'm not sure you realise, that what you heard, was not what I meant..."

I eh, have this posted on my office wall, with a finger pointing to it.

v/r

Q

i like that a lot too.

its like- i will step on the grenade. you step on the grenade first. i will step on it after you do.

classic Hogans Heroes

Quahom1 · 07-09-2005, 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bandit

i like that a lot too.

its like- i will step on the grenade. you step on the grenade first. i will step on it after you do.

classic Hogans Heroes

Bandit, don't step on the damn thing! You put your helmet over it and pray like hell that when it blows up and out, that you are down and inside (below), it's blast zone. You also pray that your helmet will absorb most of the blast.

Talk about "armor" protecting us...

juantoo3 · 07-11-2005, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Proph 1

Go get the Latin Volgate, and you'll see the word "Rapturo" which is a translation of the word "Harpazo" in the Greek.

I think you mean Vulgate. And since the original manuscripts were not written in Latin, I am not sure why I would want to take a sidetrack to try to support an unfounded theory. The trip from Greek to English is difficult enough not to confuse the matter further with Latin. (No offense to our Catholic brothers and sisters here)

I will research the Vulgate if you will research Margaret MacDonald. (Might be McDonald, I forget) circa 1820.

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The english word "rapture" is just a theological word we use to describe the "Catching up," or "Rapturo."

I understand what it means. I also understand where it came from. Which is why I avoid it like the plague. To each their own. I prefer guidance from my God, not from a self-proclaimed prophet with a fitful dream and a couple of gypsy ministers taking advantage of a nation full of grieving widows.

Quahom1 · 07-11-2005, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by juantoo3

I think you mean Vulgate. And since the original manuscripts were not written in Latin, I am not sure why I would want to take a sidetrack to try to support an unfounded theory. The trip from Greek to English is difficult enough not to confuse the matter further with Latin. (No offense to our Catholic brothers and sisters here)...

Et tu Juan? Non pesimo, carpe diem. Sanctus gia, gia Glorius, Glorius in exchelsius.

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Q

juantoo3 · 07-11-2005, 04:13 AM

Kindest Regards, Q!

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

Et tu Juan?

No thanks, I already et.

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Non pesimo, carpe diem.

No pessimism? Seize the day. Of course, after the IRS, I'm a little skittish about siezing much of anything...

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Sanctus gia, gai Glorius, Glorius in exchelsius.

Sanctu? = Sanctified? gia = ? gai = ? Glorius = glory, glorified, glorius, (yes?)
Excelcius = most excellent, excelsior?

In Excelsi Deo!

(As you can see, my Latin is horrible!)

Quahom1 · 07-11-2005, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by juantoo3

Kindest Regards, Q!

No thanks, I already et.

No pessimism? Seize the day. Of course, after the IRS, I'm a little skittish about siezing much of anything...

Sanctu? = Sanctified? gia = ? gai = ? Glorius = glory, glorified, glorius, (yes?)
Excelcius = most excellent, excelsior?

In Excelsi Deo!

(As you can see, my Latin is horrible!)

Mine's rusty as hell too. Hey, it's been 35 years since I attended Latin Mass...

It should read: "Non pessimo. Sanctus dies , dies Gloria , Gloria in excelsa"

...no ill. Holy day, day of glory, glory in the air/elevations/sky

v/r

Q