do you know God by name

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by mee

would you say that Jesus is a name that we should not use as well? because in English it is a J

Has it been so long ago? A simple look back through this very thread will reveal the answer. Jesus is *not* the man's given birth name. Hint, it starts with an Aramaic letter that corresponds to the English "Y."

So, the direct answer to your question, is that if we are to use the "proper" names of G-d and Jesus, not to mention all the others (James, John, Jedediah, etc), then we would do well to use their actual names, not their translated names. These are afterall Hebrew names, the English is simply not adequate especially when it is an invention of the translators (as it is specifically with the names Jehovah and Jesus).

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Has it been so long ago? A simple look back through this very thread will reveal the answer. Jesus is *not* the man's given birth name. Hint, it starts with an Aramaic letter that corresponds to the English "Y."

So, the direct answer to your question, is that if we are to use the "proper" names of G-d and Jesus, not to mention all the others (James, John, Jedediah, etc), then we would do well to use their actual names, not their translated names. These are afterall Hebrew names, the English is simply not adequate especially when it is an invention of the translators (as it is specifically with the names Jehovah and Jesus).

*gives a sharp stern Laurel and Hardy nod of the head.*

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

*gives a sharp stern Laurel and Hardy nod of the head.*

It certainly is.

This is another fine mess I've gotten me into.

[bananabrain]

Originally Posted by flowperson

As many of you also know this is the name used by our Rastafarian brothers and sisters, whose religion and sacraments originated in Ethiopia.

er, not wishing to diss the rastas or anything, but there isn't really any evidence that this is based on anything other than wishful thinking and general hero-worship of haile selassie by a downtrodden, deracinated minority group. however, i'm not here to rain on anyone's parade, that's just my opinion.

mee - sheesh, you *so* don't listen. literalism will only get you so far; when you start having to leave your brain in a box by the door sooner or later you're going to end up violating the plain sense of the text. there's not much point my telling you that the watchtower may not be exactly 100% reliable, but i'm going to do it anyway.

b'shalom

bananabrain

[Xavier Breath]

Why do we get hung up on the noise WE hang on a phenomenon? Jesus said," I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life..." the word Tao translates as Way, so is Jesus the Tao? "The Tao we call the Tao is not the Tao", according to the Tao...
I agree with those who prefer to focus on the Person we call God, rather than to get bogged down in the splitting of the hairs on our tongues!

[pattimax]

nice

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Has it been so long ago? A simple look back through this very thread will reveal the answer. Jesus is *not* the man's given birth name. Hint, it starts with an Aramaic letter that corresponds to the English "Y."

So, the direct answer to your question, is that if we are to use the "proper" names of G-d and Jesus, not to mention all the others (James, John, Jedediah, etc), then we would do well to use their actual names, not their translated names. These are afterall Hebrew names, the English is simply not adequate especially when it is an invention of the translators (as it is specifically with the names Jehovah and Jesus).

Well, I prefer to be called Joshua, rather than Yeshua, which I believe translates to "Jesus". So, I like the "J" part of the english language. And if I recall, there was an Eddie Murphy movie "Golden Child" where the devil kept getting mad at Murphy's character for calling him "Ajanti" instead of "Ayanti"...does that have any relevence?

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Well, I prefer to be called Joshua, rather than Yeshua, which I believe translates to "Jesus". So, I like the "J" part of the english language. And if I recall, there was an Eddie Murphy movie "Golden Child" where the devil kept getting mad at Murphy's character for calling him "Ajanti" instead of "Ayanti"...does that have any relevence?

OK, but you are of English speaking European heritage, no? It would make sense for you to go by *the name you were given at birth.* Jesus was not of European heritage, he was an Aramaic Hebrew of Semitic stock. And *Jesus* was not his birth given name. What's more, Jesus lived 1500 years before the invention of the letter (and sound) "J", whereas you were born around 400 years after the invention of "J."

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

OK, but you are of English speaking European heritage, no? It would make sense for you to go by *the name you were given at birth.* Jesus was not of European heritage, he was an Aramaic Hebrew of Semitic stock. And *Jesus* was not his birth given name. What's more, Jesus lived 1500 years before the invention of the letter (and sound) "J", whereas you were born around 400 years after the invention of "J."

Juan. Does "devil's advocate" come to mind?

[17th Angel]

Juan makes so much sense... Never thought I'd say that.. No idea why but yeah... Anyway... He is right... I am not going to go to freaking *random place* Thailand, and start calling myself Miho... Because that is their spoken language... That isn't my name... How much more obvious can it be :| Sure go ahead and give the prophet (saws) a made up name or a replacement name.... Whatever it still ISN'T!!!$£!$!£"$!£" his name is it. And if you are going to boast for accuracy that is even more insane.

[mee]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Has it been so long ago? A simple look back through this very thread will reveal the answer. Jesus is *not* the man's given birth name. Hint, it starts with an Aramaic letter that corresponds to the English "Y."

So, the direct answer to your question, is that if we are to use the "proper" names of G-d and Jesus, not to mention all the others (James, John, Jedediah, etc), then we would do well to use their actual names, not their translated names. These are afterall Hebrew names, the English is simply not adequate especially when it is an invention of the translators (as it is specifically with the names Jehovah and Jesus).

the point i was making is that people do not think it is wrong to use the J in other names ,
The Tetragrammaton, meaning "four letters," spells out the personal name of God in Hebrew.


A King Who Made Known the Name of Jehovah

King Kamehameha III
In 1852 a group of missionaries set out from Hawaii for the islands of Micronesia. They carried with them a letter of introduction that bore the official seal of King Kamehameha III, the then ruling monarch of the Hawaiian Islands. This letter, originally written in Hawaiian and addressed to the various rulers of the Pacific Islands, said in part: "There are about to sail for your islands some teachers of the Most High God, Jehovah, to make known unto you His Word for your eternal salvation. . . . I commend these good teachers to your esteem and friendship and exhort you to listen to their instructions. . . . I advise you to throw away your idols, take the Lord Jehovah for your God, worship and love Him and He will bless and save you."

[mee]

Originally Posted by bananabrain

there's not much point my telling you that the watchtower may not be exactly 100% reliable, but i'm going to do it anyway.

b'shalom

bananabrain

thats ok, the watchtower is not inspired of God only the bible is the inspired word of God.

All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work. 2 timothy 3;16-17

[mee]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Well, I prefer to be called Joshua, rather than Yeshua,

God's Name in Your Name?

Many Bible names are still popular today. In some cases the original Hebrew meaning of these names actually included the personal name of God. Here are a few examples of such names and their meaning. Perhaps your name is one of them.

• Joanna—"Jehovah Has Been Gracious"
• Joel—"Jehovah Is God"
• John—"Jehovah Has Shown Favor"
• Jonathan—"Jehovah Has Given"
• Joseph—"May Jah Add"#
• Joshua—"Jehovah Is Salvation"

# "Jah" is an abbreviated form of "Jehovah."

[mee]

How You Can Know God by Name - Jehovah's Witnesses Official Web Site
Although religiously inclined, many who believe in the Bible give little thought to the issue of God's name. But how does God feel about it?

[Bruce Michael]

Originally Posted by mee

How You Can Know God by Name - Jehovah's Witnesses Official Web Site
Although religiously inclined, many who believe in the Bible give little thought to the issue of God's name. But how does God feel about it?

God doesn't want you to wear out His name.
In fact Jews considered it a sin.

-Br. Bruce