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Old 02-11-2007, 02:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 02-11-2007, 04:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I don't think I know what I faith I am anymore..

How do I make myself believe something when another truth has been revealed to me?

Can I be a Christian and still believe that other religions have a way to God..?
I just can't get my head around the idea that God would appear only to Israel and to no other nation of people in the world.. Does that mean that all the people who lived in China and Japan (as an example) are going to suffer in some way.. because they didn't receive the teachings of the God of Israel? That just seems unfair.. and I don't want to worship a God that is not fair.

What if I believe that the Old Testament, was always a incorrect view of God.. and that correcting this view of God was why he came to teach as Jesus.. That is what I tend to think, it is the only way I can understand the old teachings.

I suspect I am Liberal in my thinking.. but really.. I have no idea.
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I don't think I know what I faith I am anymore..

What if I believe that the Old Testament, was always a incorrect view of God.. and that correcting this view of God was why he came to teach as Jesus.. That is what I tend to think, it is the only way I can understand the old teachings.
Namaste Star,

You are among friends and fellow travelers. I know your predicament. One thing about our old testament...it is not what Judaism is all about, it is such a fraction of Judaic teachings and understandings it is incredible. I have soooo much appreciation for the 'old testament thinking and G-d' now that I have been studying some with Jews...it is incredible the breadth and scope and love contained in their teachings.

As for China and Japan I agree as well...While I am a follower of Jesus, many claim I cannot be a Christian as I see many paths to heaven....of course so did John Paul when you read his quotes...
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm very liberal, lol! and the Christ man said there are many mansions,(John 14) which to me implies that God is present in many people, and in many differing religions. I think what's important is the essence of God, and the essence that Jesus adhered to. He did the fathers will, and commanded us to love the father, who is defined as love, and to love one another. If love wasn't the central theme, and God essence then I am walking the wrong path, lol!

I think anywhere love is present, there is God also, but that's just me. Even so, if you look at Christs teachings, it's hard to deny (For me anyway) that he spoke of love and spirit. e.g Inward state of being


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Old 03-02-2007, 04:09 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Thanks Wil and Cage,

It's great to know I am amongst other travellers!!

I shall admit I know little of modern Judaism.

I was aware, that the Judaism at the time of Jesus (if it has at all changed) has been inaccurately expressed within the framework of the Bible. You would think I would of done something before now in the lines of research.

Any suggestions on where or what I should start reading to learn more of Judaism? I am currently looking at Wikipedia for a basic overall view.
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I find the synagogues are very welcoming. Especially reconstruction or renewal groups... I often go on Fridays or Saturdays and just absorb. Be honest about who you are and why you are there and enjoy! If you can find one that is into interfaith all the better!

Nothing like studying the same info that Jesus did!
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I am almost certain down to the T that I am a liberal.
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I'm very liberal, lol! and the Christ man said there are many mansions,(John 14) which to me implies that God is present in many people, and in many differing religions. I think what's important is the essence of God, and the essence that Jesus adhered to. He did the fathers will, and commanded us to love the father, who is defined as love, and to love one another. If love wasn't the central theme, and God essence then I am walking the wrong path, lol!

I think anywhere love is present, there is God also, but that's just me. Even so, if you look at Christs teachings, it's hard to deny (For me anyway) that he spoke of love and spirit. e.g Inward state of being


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I am on the same page with you... IMHO... God is Love... Love is God... When we act out of Love we are acting out of the Spirit... "If I have not LOVE... I am nothing..."

Peace & Love...

Live Love Liberally...

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yes, we believe we are liberals, but are we really? some folks would call u liberal xtians- backsliders!

but u won't get that from me...

apparently, studies show that rather than mellow with age, we tend to become more conservative as we age, less tolerant and less open to change and new ideas, so to me it's interesting to see so many ppl report they feel they have mellowed as they have aged...
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You said the X word!!!!
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lol, yeah, but we're liberals, its okay
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yes, we believe we are liberals, but are we really? some folks would call u liberal xtians- backsliders!

but u won't get that from me...

apparently, studies show that rather than mellow with age, we tend to become more conservative as we age, less tolerant and less open to change and new ideas, so to me it's interesting to see so many ppl report they feel they have mellowed as they have aged...
I consider myself to be what others call a liberal Christian...I don't consider myself a liberal Christian...I believe Christ would be quite pleased with my thoughts and understandings of Christianity...I believe my thoughts will be mainstream Christianity in the next few hundred years...I think I am fairly conservative in my beliefs...however mainstream currently doesn't see it that way.
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Not speaking for anyone but I Xcept that as Xceptional and Xpect it from Francis as not derogatory in any way shape or manner.
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