Door-To-Door Missionaries - Page 2

Muslimwoman · 11-06-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondi

It's not easy to do, Muslimwoman. I'm not naturally extroverted, by no means.

Well you have my admiration Dondi, I am a total extrovert by nature but I couldn't do it. I could stand in front of 4 million people and waffle all day but ask me to knock on a door and I would get chicken and run away.

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Originally Posted by Dondi

Despite my head telling me not too, my heart compels me to reach people for God. For you see, I have this hope in me that I want to share. I want people to know the goodness of God, the love of God.

May I play devils advocate for a moment. Would your time not be better spent talking with people that want to hear about your faith, that want to learn? I post on a forum for Muslims but people that join do so as Muslims, those considering converting and those just interested in learning. Is there nothing like that for you, where you can share the love of G-d with people that are receptive to hearing it?

China Cat Sunflower · 11-07-2007, 03:01 AM

I used to have to go door-to-door handing out religious pamphlets when I was a kid. It's harder for people to turn away a child. I hated it. I understand that people feel compelled in different ways to proselytize this way. I hope they understand that me running them off isn't personal. There's no reason why I have to entertain telemarketers, cold callers, or missionaries, and I don't. I don't owe them my time.

Chris

madeinrussia89 · 11-07-2007, 06:14 AM

I don't have an issue with people spreading the good news, of course I don't, but this method bothers me. Not only are they NOT invited and disruptive, but then some of them have the nerve to try and question my beliefs after disrespecting me in the first place by coming uninvited.

Especially JWs and Mormons.

I try to have patience, but sometimes there is just nothing left to do but to bid them to leave and shut the door.

And I believe in the trinity, obviously, and I'm not going to be too thrilled about having someone come to my door and tell me heresy.

It takes a special person to be a missionary, I don't have that gift, and hey, kudos to you if you do, but door-to-door is just not the best way to do it.

mee · 11-07-2007, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

That's all an well... But, if you came to my door... And I gave you the most aggressive look and told you to you know *beep*off... Would you ever knock on my door again? Also would you tell the friends to avoid the door?

we all have bad days , people are like that one day but the next they are in a better mood . there was a time when i didnt open the door i would just wait till they had gone , and look at me now i am on the other side of the door

knowing that there are people who are sheeplike out there, keeps us going back regardless of the opposition. but even if there are no more sheeplike ones out there it is putting people on notice. that is what the GOODNEWS is all about . people cannot say that the preaching of the GOODNEWS is not being done because it is GLOBAL matthew 24;14
(Mark 13:10) Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first.

Remeber in Noahs day , it was only a few who escaped because those who escaped were willling to act on Gods instructions when he told them about building a place of escape and getting in there . it was to late to try and get in at the last minute because it was God who shut the door of the place of safety. but talking about NOW the door is still open at the momment but soon when it is Gods time the door will be closed . not by man but by God . responding before the GREAT TRIBULATION is the thing to do . then we can be in a good place of spiritual concealment. Yes there are many opposers out there but for now the preaching of the Goodnews goes on .
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. matthew 24;14

(Matthew 28:19) Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,

(Mark 13:10) Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first.

(Romans 10:18) Nevertheless I ask, They did not fail to hear, did they? Why, in fact, “into all the earth their sound went out, and to the extremities of the inhabited earth their utterances.”

(Revelation 14:6) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people,

17th Angel · 11-07-2007, 11:32 AM

Mee... You heard the infamous story of the JW door to door? My friend who is an elder said that this lady went to a rapists door (Alone) and she got away without any harm.... and he was caught a day or two after... She went to see him in prison to ask why he didn't invite her in and you know rape her.... He said because there was the other JW guy standing at the end of the garden path looking down to the doorway..... Spooky eh?

Dondi · 11-07-2007, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Muslimwoman

Well you have my admiration Dondi, I am a total extrovert by nature but I couldn't do it. I could stand in front of 4 million people and waffle all day but ask me to knock on a door and I would get chicken and run away.

I understand what you mean here. There must be some dynamic about being in front of an audience as opposed to a one-on-one conversation. In an audience, you're likely to be addressing those who both agree and disagree with you. The comfort of knowing you are preaching to the some of the choir can outweigh the discomfort of speaking to people who are at odds with you.

But when you start off one-on-one with a stranger, you have no idea whether they agree with you or think you are a nutcase. I guess that is the fear of not knowing where the other person stands is the thing that's unnerving.

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May I play devils advocate for a moment. Would your time not be better spent talking with people that want to hear about your faith, that want to learn? I post on a forum for Muslims but people that join do so as Muslims, those considering converting and those just interested in learning. Is there nothing like that for you, where you can share the love of G-d with people that are receptive to hearing it?

Believe me, you are no devil, MW.

I have witnessed online before. But it is a rather impersonal approach, imo. There is something about confronting another in person that makes it much more satisfying when one responds positively to the message. When you see the other's heart come alive with joy with the realization that God loves them. You see the change in them. And you rejoice with them. Jesus many times confronted people one-on-one.

I understand what you mean by going to people who have interest, but how are people going to have an interest if they don't even know? Like I said, many I've spoken to just had no idea of what the Bible says about a relationship with God. Nor about the process of salvation. Some have misconceptions of what it's all about, either because they see a false image of Christianity from others that ridicule the faith or were presented with a shallow version. I'm sure you can appreciate this, MW, in light of what many perceive of Islam. My objective is to generate a spark in another person to look at the matter biblically and straightforward and thereby incite ithe interest needed to pursue the matter further.

Dondi · 11-07-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Mee... You heard the infamous story of the JW door to door? My friend who is an elder said that this lady went to a rapists door (Alone) and she got away without any harm.... and he was caught a day or two after... She went to see him in prison to ask why he didn't invite her in and you know rape her.... He said because there was the other JW guy standing at the end of the garden path looking down to the doorway..... Spooky eh?

That is why we have certain protocols when on visitation. We always go two-by-two for the very reason of protection, both from physical harm and against any one who wishes to slander one of our churchmembers with false accusations. It's good to have another witness. And also ladies go with ladies and the men with men, we never mix teams unless they are husband and wife.

17th Angel · 11-07-2007, 02:23 PM

Yeah... Understand the dangers.... But, there wasn't anyone with her! But the guy says he saw a man standing at the end of the path!!! *Que the twilight music now!*

Don't worry Dondi, do not try to adjust your pc monitor... The signal is fine, we have total control for the next 30minutes..... There is a fith dimension beyond that which is known to man, it is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infity...... It is the midle ground between light, and between dark. Between science and between superstition... It lies between the pit of man's fear and the summit of his knowledge... This is the dimension of imagination.... You can unlock this door with the key of imagination, beyond the door lays this dimension of sound, of sight... A dimension of the mind you're moving into a land of shadow and substance... Of things and ideas... You've just crossed over into...... The Twilight zone!$!£"$!£$!£

Dondi · 11-07-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Yeah... Understand the dangers.... But, there wasn't anyone with her! But the guy says he saw a man standing at the end of the path!!! *Que the twilight music now!*

Don't worry Dondi, do not try to adjust your pc monitor... The signal is fine, we have total control for the next 30minutes..... There is a fith dimension beyond that which is known to man, it is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infity...... It is the midle ground between light, and between dark. Between science and between superstition... It lies between the pit of man's fear and the summit of his knowledge... This is the dimension of imagination.... You can unlock this door with the key of imagination, beyond the door lays this dimension of sound, of sight... A dimension of the mind you're moving into a land of shadow and substance... Of things and ideas... You've just crossed over into...... The Twilight zone!$!£"$!£$!£

Ah, I understand now. Bing! Hebrews 13:2, got it!

17th Angel · 11-07-2007, 02:46 PM

That is always an interesting scripture.... (angels pretending to be humans aye?) I am yet to meet one ;/

Dondi · 11-07-2007, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

That is always an interesting scripture.... (angels pretending to be humans aye?) I am yet to meet one ;/

I wonder if they are pretending to be humans. I've yet to meet one also, at least that I'm aware of.

17th Angel · 11-07-2007, 03:36 PM

It would be so clear wouldn't it? There would just be some unreal presence/aura around said person if they were some angelic being.... Awesome...

wil · 11-07-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dondi

I wonder if they are pretending to be humans. I've yet to meet one also, at least that I'm aware of.

Aren't we all? Isn't that why you go door to door. To help the person identify the spark of G!d/Christ within us all?

17th Angel · 11-07-2007, 03:50 PM

Wil, I am sure this will be hard for you to imagine... PRETEND you have no freaking interest in god, and believe 98% there isn't one.... You are there Saturday morning.... Just finished a week of s... work... And just want to rest.... You're laying in.

knock knock, knock..... Someone awakens you... You telling me You'd "identify" a spark of god in the strangers at your door? lol... Or would you identify a weak point on the side of their head to spark them out?

OH he played on the words... like electric, liquid dynomiiiiite!

wil · 11-07-2007, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Wil, I am sure this will be hard for you to imagine... PRETEND you have no freaking interest in god, and believe 98% there isn't one.... You are there Saturday morning.... Just finished a week of s... work... And just want to rest.... You're laying in.

knock knock, knock..... Someone awakens you... You telling me You'd "identify" a spark of god in the strangers at your door? lol... Or would you identify a weak point on the side of their head to spark them out?

OH he played on the words... like electric, liquid dynomiiiiite!

quite interesting now...am I now the one who was awoke from overwork or hangover or latenight partying...who 98% doesn't believe G!d exists? If so odds are I wouldn't (If you've read my commentary you know I didn't) see the G!d within them, I didn't see them as angels coming for my benefit. But if they played their cards right and at my verbal abuse, smiled, left a card, a pamphlet, a cd, and said something to the affect of, "Please pass these on to someone who you think may be interested", or "We are here whenever you need us", or "Go with G!d my brother and have a great day, we apologize for interrupting" It may register as nothing as I toss the info in the garbage, I may think of someone to pass it on to, or later I may be telling the story of my encounter when someone says, "What did they give you? Do you still have it?" Regardless a seed was tossed in my direction....upto me to decide what kind of ground I am. Could be it lie dormant for years, decades, prior to sprouting.

Or if I am the door knocker....do I overly concern myself with the 98%? or is it my job to see the 2%?