Evangelicals raise $8.5 m. for Jewish state

[pattimax]

Originally Posted by wil

The post and the headline read one way...reading the entire article accuses him of exactly what you question...listening to all the links proves it is correct.

when in Rome?? So you are ok with preachers or politicians saying one thing to one group and the opposite to another...ends justifies the means??

No, I am not ok with "ends justifies the means." The Rome comment referred to getting interfaith people to wake up and realize that just because it sounds so nice and it is so easy to slip into (those should be warning signs right there) that it is not neccessarily the right answer.

When I read you quotes, I assumed he was talking with messianic Jews and Christians. I really didn't see a conflict. One was just a little more in your face. (with grace)

[madeinrussia89]

Originally Posted by pattimax

God, rise up. Judge the earth.
All of the nations belong to you.
Psalm 82:8

Where is the tyranny in understanding that?

The tyranny is in the government of Israel, not in God.

[China Cat Sunflower]

I watched a video of Hagee and his group. It was more entertaining than pro wrestling! Nice of the Israelis to keep the seat warm until God has time to whack them all for not believing in his son. AIPAC doesn't seem to mind the nutball support though. I guess they figure if they can get the idiot RWW's to support a strike on Iran it will be worth having to put up with all these lunatics.

Kumbaya,

Chris

[InLove]

Related article and video concerning CUFI--got no responses on the other board. But it is related to this thread, so I'll go ahead and put it here.

http://www.comparative-religion.com/...-can-8171.html

InPeace,
InLove

[pattimax]

Originally Posted by madeinrussia89

The tyranny is in the government of Israel, not in God.

This is an argument in which I will not be sucked into, but I am sure God really appreciates your help.

[madeinrussia89]

Originally Posted by pattimax

This is an argument in which I will not be sucked into, but I am sure God really appreciates your help.

Yes, because we can presume what God thinks. Ahah. No. But I certainly think he would be interested in social injustices in the Holy Land.

[Muslimwoman]

Originally Posted by InLove

Related article and video concerning CUFI--got no responses on the other board. But it is related to this thread, so I'll go ahead and put it here.

http://www.comparative-religion.com/...-can-8171.html

InPeace,
InLove

as salaam aleykum habibty

That was the best 40 minutes I have spent for a long time, thank you so much. I was most impressed with both Rabbi Lerner and Dr Weber.

A couple of things struck me very hard during watching the video's:

1. The hate monger, while talking about a possible Iranian nuclear strike against Israel, said "you think gas is expensive now". It just goes to demonstrate how so much of this hatred is fuelled by oil. (no pun intended)

2. The person doing the voiceover for the hatred video kept pronouncing the organisation as kuffa - not a stones throw from the Arabic word kuffar, meaning unbeliever.

3. Dr Weber when asked about the political influence this group has, replied the peaceful are not organised. That struck home with me, the hate mongers on all sides are well organised, their hatred fuels their efforts. It is certainly time us peaceful folk get around to recognising that and doing something about it.

4. My favourite statement from the whole thing was when Rabbi Lerner said the land was promised twice by G-d, both to the Jews and the Arabs (as both are descended from Abraham). Why? So we can reconcile and unite - we just haven't done it yet. I pray that day will come soon.

I wish the world had more people like these two gentlemen, or at least ones that would speak out. Thank you so much for sharing that with us and I hope many people will take the time to watch and learn.

Salaam sister