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12-20-2006, 01:18 PM
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Re: expanding universe
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Across the pond in the USA, Hellmanns is now known as Best Foods brand. Does anyone think that's carrying the political correctness thing a bit too far ?
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what's incorrect about "Hellmann's" ?
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12-20-2006, 01:45 PM
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The door. The key.
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Re: expanding universe
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Ahh, you mean Snoopese.
Snoopango.
BTW, I'm a Mark & Karen man. What about yourself???
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Well, B..... I would say Ciel is more of a Ben and Jerrys man...
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12-20-2006, 02:02 PM
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Re: expanding universe
Then I defer to your greater knowledge of her, 17th.
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12-20-2006, 02:04 PM
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in essence
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Re: expanding universe
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Well, B..... I would say Ciel is more of a Ben and Jerrys man...
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17th ????
You talking Isis dog star?
Are you Sirius?
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12-20-2006, 02:06 PM
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The door. The key.
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Re: expanding universe
Uhm... I am totally cereal.
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12-20-2006, 02:14 PM
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in essence
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Re: expanding universe
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Originally Posted by flowperson
A couple of questions oh wise and mercurial seers of the web:
What's the diff between mayonnaise and salad dressing, and do they both possess cosmic attributes ? If so are you in trouble if you consume a bit of each and do not consistently use one more than the other ?
Does anyone think that narwhales make sounds similar to the unicorn, and if so, is it a result of that twisty horny thing in their foreheads ? (thanks for your recording prober...it helped to clarify my question.) Or is the twisty horny thing actually not projecting from their foreheads but elsewhere, and what we know currently about this subject matter is all an illusion.( the result of too many blue camels perhaps ?)
Across the pond in the USA, Hellmanns is now known as Best Foods brand. Does anyone think that's carrying the political correctness thing a bit too far ?
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Questions, so many questions.........
Answer to question 1 ..... Crab nebular not formative without mayonaise.
Answer to question 2 ...... Maya.
Answer to question 3 ..... Definitely.
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12-20-2006, 02:19 PM
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in essence
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Re: expanding universe
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Uhm... I am totally cereal.
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Very dry.........
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12-20-2006, 02:32 PM
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Re: expanding universe
Dry and full of fibre.... *clears his throat*
So the Universe, is it growing? Or moving? Atoms obviously emit/absorb light wavelengths: Helium, Hydrogen and all the other atomic elements and the spectrum signatures. Vesto Slipher was studing Spectra light emitted from the neighbouring galaxies. He found that the light waas shifted toward the red end/longer wavelength, end of the spectrum... They call it "red shift" Which obviously makes it logical that the galaxies are moving, away, from us. So are we expanding? Or straying?
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12-20-2006, 04:47 PM
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Re: expanding universe
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So are we expanding? Or straying?
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Hi,
I think the current consensus amongst cosmologists is that the entire universe is expanding. Except for Belgium.
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12-20-2006, 04:47 PM
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Re: expanding universe
Just a question...I've been utilizing gravity as a scapegoat, but does the universe deserve some of the blame for my waistline?
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12-20-2006, 05:14 PM
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Re: expanding universe
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Just a question...I've been utilizing gravity as a scapegoat, but does the universe deserve some of the blame for my waistline?
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Hi,
No, this is certainly a genuine phenomenon. In fact there is a local gravity "hotspot" very near to me.
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12-20-2006, 08:41 PM
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Why do cows say MU?
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Re: expanding universe
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Originally Posted by flowperson
A couple of questions oh wise and mercurial seers of the web:
What's the diff between mayonnaise and salad dressing, and do they both possess cosmic attributes ? If so are you in trouble if you consume a bit of each and do not consistently use one more than the other ?
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Mayonaise is delicious, while "salad dressing" (aka "Miracle Whip") is gross and disgusting. Consuming "salad dressing" (yuck!) will destroy your sense of taste, and you will no longer be able to recognize what tastes good and what tastes bad. (Sort of like a mad radical drunken on propaganda.)
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Anyway... The Universe will grow forever? Impossible... What happens when it gets to the edge of the jar?
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There is no edge to the jar. (Actually, it's not a jar, it's a bottle--a Klein Bottle, to be more descriptive) There is neither an inside, nor an outside to this jar, either. (It's related to the Möbius strip.)
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12-21-2006, 01:48 AM
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Re: expanding universe
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Originally Posted by seattlegal
Mayonaise is delicious, while "salad dressing" (aka "Miracle Whip") is gross and disgusting. Consuming "salad dressing" (yuck!) will destroy your sense of taste, and you will no longer be able to recognize what tastes good and what tastes bad. (Sort of like a mad radical drunken on propaganda.)
There is no edge to the jar. (Actually, it's not a jar, it's a bottle--a Klein Bottle, to be more descriptive) There is neither an inside, nor an outside to this jar, either. (It's related to the Möbius strip.)
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Seattle:
I'm sorry to tell you this but I prefer the "disgusting" salad dressing for sandwiches and such. It's got a little more zip and just tastes better to me. Commercial mayonnaise has a greasy aftertaste to me and doesn't seem to "add" much to my sandwiches.
HOWEVER, I make my own mayonnaise from scratch (not too difficult) when I want to make a killer potato salad. But that's just too much work for my sandwich needs. Does that make me disgusting ? Let's see... if A is B, and B is C, then A is C? Naaaah not in this case.
As far as the universe structural thing goes, I've heard and read about the Klein bottle model , but I've also heard and read good arguments for the "torus" (donut) model. An excellent book I'm reading now makes an argument for an arrangement of membranes assembled into some sort of "bulk" of light and dark matter and energy.
The author, Lisa Randall is a high energy physicist and mathematician at Harvard, and looks enough like Jodie Foster to be her twin. The book is titled, Warped Passages. I'm a little more than halfway through and I'm pretty impressed with her ability to explain very complex things in everyday language. She's at the forefront of those who believe that they will soon be able to unite the force of gravity with the other three basic forces already well known and explained.
It seems that the Large Hadron Collider at CERN which will come on line in a year or two will likely enable further exploration of this subject matter...or as I call it "more and more about less and less". And it seems from what has been discovered over the past ten years or so that the universe at least "appears" to have an inside part and an outside part, as far as our perspectives are concerned. Think of the outside as the past, and the inside as the future.
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12-21-2006, 06:17 AM
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Re: expanding universe
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Originally Posted by flowperson
Seattle:
I'm sorry to tell you this but I prefer the "disgusting" salad dressing for sandwiches and such. It's got a little more zip and just tastes better to me. Commercial mayonnaise has a greasy aftertaste to me and doesn't seem to "add" much to my sandwiches.
HOWEVER, I make my own mayonnaise from scratch (not too difficult) when I want to make a killer potato salad. But that's just too much work for my sandwich needs. Does that make me disgusting ? Let's see... if A is B, and B is C, then A is C? Naaaah not in this case.
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No, that does not make you disgusting. (Salad dressing being disgusting is a purely subjective call on my part. Opinions may vary regarding mayo vs Miracle Whip.)
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As far as the universe structural thing goes, I've heard and read about the Klein bottle model , but I've also heard and read good arguments for the "torus" (donut) model. An excellent book I'm reading now makes an argument for an arrangement of membranes assembled into some sort of "bulk" of light and dark matter and energy.
The author, Lisa Randall is a high energy physicist and mathematician at Harvard, and looks enough like Jodie Foster to be her twin. The book is titled, Warped Passages. I'm a little more than halfway through and I'm pretty impressed with her ability to explain very complex things in everyday language. She's at the forefront of those who believe that they will soon be able to unite the force of gravity with the other three basic forces already well known and explained.
It seems that the Large Hadron Collider at CERN which will come on line in a year or two will likely enable further exploration of this subject matter...or as I call it "more and more about less and less". And it seems from what has been discovered over the past ten years or so that the universe at least "appears" to have an inside part and an outside part, as far as our perspectives are concerned. Think of the outside as the past, and the inside as the future.
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Kewl! It sounds like a book I should put on my wish list!
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12-21-2006, 11:03 AM
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Re: expanding universe
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Originally Posted by flowperson
Seattle:
HOWEVER, I make my own mayonnaise from scratch (not too difficult) when I want to make a killer potato salad. But that's just too much work for my sandwich needs. Does that make me disgusting ? Let's see... if A is B, and B is C, then A is C? Naaaah not in this case.
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You know, I think we've already uncovered the fallacy of this thinking here, in The Rush to be Right thread.
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