False prophets..... - Page 8

Bandit · 02-27-2005, 11:35 PM

there is also a power that comes through these channels to fool and decieve others known as the false prophets.
Satan can appear as an angel of light.

Postmaster · 02-28-2005, 12:37 AM

I agree Bandit, it's simply a matter of those that do his work and those that don't. Although it's not up to me to decide who and who is not divine, to me the divine are people who do Gods work or do good to mankind without any or little reward at all.

Faithfulservant · 02-28-2005, 10:54 AM

I also agree with Bandit.. Not all things spiritual are good.. We are in spiritual warfare daily which was the purpose of the Armor of God in the bible. All throughout the bible people were dealing the evil side of spirituality.. from Genesis to Revelation.. Thats why we are also told to test the spirits of people. Just because its paranormal doesnt mean its good.. Ask the man who had "Legion" cast from him into a herd of swine.

Sacredstar · 02-28-2005, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bandit

there is also a power that comes through these channels to fool and decieve others known as the false prophets.
Satan can appear as an angel of light.

I agree with the Pope and Rome Satan is within man

Bandit I have learnt not to speak on matters of which I have no personal experience, and as I have experienced many different energies I can assure you one does know the difference between a lost soul and Jesus Christ so sadly your view is not fact.

But I can appreciate your view about spirituality, my understanding is that the reason for the fall of humanity is that people abused spiritual energy, in other words, people abused GOD's power for their own ends. ISIS was a prime example and without realising it people are still doing this today. E.g. one should not send healing to someone without their invitation to do so, because it is an invasion of another's soul without permission. New Agers find it very hard to take this on board and just replace their desire to heal with a prayer.

When Jesus Christ overshadows you there is never any doubt in your mind, of what you are seeing, hearing and experiencing, the out pouring of love that he brings is so immense the bliss is hard to describe into words.

Ultimately Christ knows the truth about his children and it is he that I serve in humility for the benefit of humanity. Christ called me and is calling many others (the elect) for the same reason and I humbly bow to his wish by surrendering to GOD's will, as it says in Romans it was pre-determinded.

Blessed are the pure of heart for they SHALL see GOD and they do.

Glory be to GOD.

Love beyond measure

Kimxxx

Faithfulservant · 02-28-2005, 03:15 PM

"I agree with the Pope and Rome Satan is within man "

Im a bit surprised.. you said you've talked to the Archangel Michael.. why would you disbelieve that Satan was a fallen angel? He has the ability to wreak havoc on us internally.. why could he not also have a physical presence?

"Bandit I have learnt not to speak on matters of which I have no personal experience, and as I have experienced many different energies I can assure you one does know the difference between a lost soul and Jesus Christ so sadly your view is not fact."

This Im also a bit surprised on since Ive seen you do it several times in these forums. Satan is a lot older than any living being on this earth Im sure hes a heck of a lot smarter too. I think he could pretty much outwit anyone on this forum if it wasnt for the information the bible imparts to us.

"When Jesus Christ overshadows you there is never any doubt in your mind, of what you are seeing, hearing and experiencing, the out pouring of love that he brings is so immense the bliss is hard to describe into words."

Your talking about posession right? Once again Satan can appear the angel of light and his minions can appear beings of righteousness.. It says so in the bible. Now if you would have said being filled with the Holy Spirit I could relate.

"Ultimately Christ knows the truth about his children and it is he that I serve in humility for the benefit of humanity. Christ called me and is calling many others (the elect) for the same reason and I humbly bow to his wish by surrendering to GOD's will, as it says in Romans it was pre-determinded."

Oh so now your saying that you and like you are the elect?.. Have you accepted Jesus Christ as your savior? Have you said the sinners prayer? Have you accepted that God sent him to earth to bring you salvation? Do you believe he is the great I AM.. before Moses was I AM that he was there during creation? Do you believe that Jesus is THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE that noone can go to the Father but by him? Do you believe in his suffering the cross for your sins and he resurrected 3 days later? If not.. then your elect is not the same as my elect.. and my elect is biblical which is God inspired.

"Blessed are the pure of heart for they SHALL see GOD and they do."

Yes.. Children see God they are the only ones pure enough to see God. The rest of us are just going to have to wait.

"Glory be to GOD"

Amen

Bandit · 02-28-2005, 03:35 PM

no, they think Jesus was some magical mystical jeanie on twinkle toes with a fairy wand. there is no sin, there is no evil, no judgement so how could Lucifer also exist. there cannot be mercy, grace and salvation without sin, evil and disobedience.

...of whom the god of this world hath blinded.

but of course they will give us a lollypop and a candybar answer for everything.

Faithfulservant · 02-28-2005, 03:38 PM

ugh all that candy is giving me a tummy ache

Sacredstar · 02-28-2005, 05:33 PM

When you experience the holy spirit you will know, once experienced you never doubt. Those that know GOD affirm other's experiences of GOD.

One needs no candy or anything else from material existence for that matter. For in your wholeness you become one with GOD.

God bless

Kim xxx

Sacredstar · 03-01-2005, 03:29 PM

This link explains it well the false prophets of Greed.

http://www.anotherperspective.org/advoc532.html

I, Brian · 03-02-2005, 09:16 AM

Ah, not another politics link. Let's try and keep discussions focussed on their subject matter, rather than generalised bashing of invidual political parties.

Sacredstar · 03-02-2005, 02:41 PM

Ignore politics the link was only provided due to its list of scripture and definition of Greed and that applies to all nations, sadly no country can claim a lack of greed to the best of my knowledge.

Postmaster · 03-02-2005, 03:40 PM

exactly, a country is nothing but land, so doesn't have the IQ to be greedy

Sacredstar · 03-02-2005, 04:28 PM

ha ha PM good joke, like it!

Lets say nationality then for we are ALL equal in GOD's eyes.

Love Kim xx

Dor · 03-02-2005, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sacredstar

ha ha PM good joke, like it!

Lets say nationality then for we are ALL equal in GOD's eyes.

Love Kim xx

not according to your beloved GT
49 Jesus said, "Congratulations to those who are alone and chosen, for you will find the kingdom. For you have come from it, and you will return there again."
62 Jesus said, "I disclose my mysteries to those [who are worthy] of [my] mysteries.

So are we all equal or is there a few as you put it "the elect"

Sacredstar · 03-02-2005, 05:48 PM

Dear Dor

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Originally Posted by Dor

not according to your beloved GT
49 Jesus said, "Congratulations to those who are alone and chosen, for you will find the kingdom. For you have come from it, and you will return there again."

62 Jesus said, "I disclose my mysteries to those [who are worthy] of [my] mysteries.

So are we all equal or is there a few as you put it "the elect"

Jesus did not degrade truth on unwilling ears or convey that which one was not ready to hear, first people had to get the basics if they did not get that then there was not much point teaching them the next level. The first step is positive thinking for if a person does not think only positive about their brothers Jesus was wasting his time sharing more. 49 He speaks here of 'aloneness' which also infers spiritual independence for a man that cannot stand alone as nothing to offer another. Most people cannot be without a partner hence why this is an important teaching he is teaching people to be strong in their own foundations and not to be co-dependent like a lot of modern day society. All are chosen but few choose to listen and here Jesus is addressing people who have the ears to hear. the eyes to see and the heart to embrace. These things he said to his disciples not the man in the street, he would not say this to the man in street for he would not wish them to feel inferior, he was congratulating those that had understood him and what he had taught them.

So yes we are all equal in GOD's eyes but our understanding of what GOD as tried to teach us for 1,000's of years has not penetrated through equally. Equality is all, but yet men do not think, feel or understand the same due to their own perceptions that can block the truth entering the heart and mind. This is why self mastery was so important because it cleanses the lense of perceptional consciousness.

The elect have predetermined journey's as confirmed in Romans. It also talks about the elect in Revelations. You could say they are the first born through the eye of the needle, who have the job of leading humanity out of the wilderness of the darkness so that every man, woman and child can create the Kingdom of GOD e.g Love.

When this is achieved Christ will come.

So the word 'elect' is an unfortunate term for we are all equal in GOD's eyes but yet we all have different jobs to do and different roles to play in the unfolding divine plan for humanity.

Try replacing the word 'elect' with the Charioteer's or the Christ Lionheart's or elected for a job!

People from all faiths, cultures and religions can join hands in the front line, side by side to create 'emotive social evolution' and change the face of humanity through zealous compassionate action to save our planet and its people from complete destruction.

This is why we came on a mission from GOD.

Love beyond measure

Kim xx