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[Faithfulservant]

Its amazing how everyones here seems to be waiting with bated breath for this self proclaimed prophet to finally bring it.

Seriously, I credit most of you with more intelligence than to play these games with this guy. You would almost think he is a celebrity here already.

If he is truly a prophet then I think most of the abrahamic faiths have the same test.

Galatians 1:6-9 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

Jer 14:14 And the Lord said to me, "The prophets prophesy lies in My name. I have not sent them, commanded them, nor spoken to them; they prophesy to you a false vision, divination, a worthless thing, and the deceit of their heart.

1John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.


God said: "And if thou say in thine heart, how shall we know the word which the LORD hath NOT spoken? When a PROPHET SPEAKETH IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath NOT spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptyously: thou shalt no be afraid of him," (Deuteronomy 18:21-22).

A true prophet will not take the people away from the WORD of God. He will always be pointing the people to the WORD. They will always point to GOD and the Absolute Authority of the Word of God.
And of course Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy Name? And in the Thy Name have cast out Devils? And in thy Name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

So what are we supposed to do? Test the fruits

Jesus said, "By their fruits ye shall know them" (Matthew 7:15-20). BUT then the Question can be asked, "WHAT fruit?" The Same Bible which warns of false prophets and how to identify them, also tells us how to recognize a True Prophet sent from God. Many times people will focus in on the gifts and miracles produced in the different ministries. BUT according to the Bible a "TRUE Prophet" is not to be vindicated by his gifts and miracles alone. He can have these things and still be a "False Prophet".The Gift and the Miracle aren't false, yet there is an aspect of the man's ministry that can be false.

I also found an interesting site that revealed a lot about "gnostic prophets" if anyone is interested heres the link

Strange Fire:Gnosticism.9

My main thing is to not trust my feelings or emotions regarding the mystical. I go to the Word and let that be my guidebook.

To God be the glory greath things HE hath done.

[paganprophet]

"If he is truly a prophet then I think most of the abrahamic faiths have the same test.

Galatians 1:6-9 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

Jer 14:14 And the Lord said to me, "The prophets prophesy lies in My name. I have not sent them, commanded them, nor spoken to them; they prophesy to you a false vision, divination, a worthless thing, and the deceit of their heart.

1John 4:1 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world.


God said: "And if thou say in thine heart, how shall we know the word which the LORD hath NOT spoken? When a PROPHET SPEAKETH IN THE NAME OF THE LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath NOT spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptyously: thou shalt no be afraid of him," (Deuteronomy 18:21-22).

A true prophet will not take the people away from the WORD of God. He will always be pointing the people to the WORD. They will always point to GOD and the Absolute Authority of the Word of God."

But FaithfulServant, what happens when the WORD itself is corrupt? It's always the prophet's job to "make straight the path of God" when it's become so twisted and snarled in men's agendas instead of God's that religions lead people into unholy acts of violence, murder and mayhem in the name of the Lord or God or whatever.

You talk of suspicion of false prophets and quote the warnings. Jesus nailed it for believers to tell the difference as you quote too: "by their fruits ye shall know them." That says it all because talks cheap and action speaks louder than words. Has my past prophesy bearing work done anything?

Oh, yeah, some things, 18,100 acres all total of "miraculous" land preservation that happened later at the sites where the new Sign of the Messiah was sanctified. The honoring of the Sign of the Messiah by over 500 Nazareans at Easter in the Basilica of the Annunciation in Nazareth in 2003, the spiritual unification of Old World Holy Land religious tradition with New World Native American spirituality that has happened through prophesy combining two messianic spiritual beings and reality combining families from two worlds, Old and New. But it's not your Hollywood Greatest Story ever told as yet.

This isn't why I'm going public much earlier than anticipated. God's sent me in not only to clarify the right spiritual pathway, (yes, there is one pathway above the rest at prophetic placement moment in time and history--hence the need for a single focus and a single prophet sent), but to "head 'em off at the pass" in American tv lingo,

Why? Because without proof of Divine intervention, or a clear Sign of spiritual contact of God to human beings there is information floating now at the fringes of scholarship but once easily found by everyone will utterly destroy any rational reason for believing in any of the Abrahamic faiths over any primitive superstitious religious belief system based on believing myths as reality.

I'm not saying this would happen overnight. But I do know that this information in the hands of secularists, atheist scientists, anyone with a vendetta against the Church or the Temple or the Mosque will hammer religious leaders in public wherever they can asking them why tell anyone what to believe or do when you yourselves have been so incredibly deceived for so long?

I bring new revelation, news of spiritual revolution, and New Gnosis, Saving Gnosis, salvation by knowledge in a new way, this time saving the whole Abrahamic tradition that culminated in the revelation of the Spirit of Christ in Jesus from falling along with the rest in their End Times of all religious and philosophical paths that do not lead to the Holy One of heaven and Earth.

Gosh, sounds like I'm selling a new religion, doesn't it? Now, now, just read it as if you picked it up as some religious tract off the sidewalk. Didn't see who was handing them out..can't report them for beheading in our Egyptian C.R. forum, can we?

[Tao_Equus]

Omg... this is truly a revelation to me!! finding common ground with FS!!!

I think you better spit it out pagan..... Your like some huge big over-perfumed aunty on the phone for too long making a huge deal about how much I'm gona love a christmas present when she visits. I have the feeling your revelation will be some unwearable tank-top too. The way you are hanging this out is pretty childish.

TE

[Muslimwoman]

Originally Posted by paganprophet

culminating in Christianity.

Well you have my attention, can't wait to hear what you have to say.

[Muslimwoman]

Does your home page start with a quote by Stephen Hawking and end with a conversation between Pooh & Piglet? If so it doesn't sound very Prophetic.

[ardenz]

mmmmm

[paganprophet]

My Biomystical Christianity website book is done. Now all I got to do is finish the secular book pages which should be in the next day or two. Again, I apologize for jumping the gun on saying anything "prophetic" before I was ready to show and tell.

Say, Muslimwoman, what did you mean by your post? Hawkings? Pooh?

[Francis king]

hawking poo?

[Dondi]

While we wait patiently and anxiously at this new revelation, what I've read so far has led to new questions.

If this new prophesy promises to be so shattering to the Abrahamic faiths, it make me wonder how God missed out on giving this knowledge out in the first place. And why now? Is God not capable of preserving His revelation through time?

This is similiar to Joseph Smiths claim that all the Protestant and Catholic religions are false and therefore we need a new revelation in the form of golden plates, which had been buried for over a millenia and just happened to fall into Mr. Smiths's hands. But no one else has seen the plates, for they have been conveniently whisked away by the angel Moroni.

You are already violating a basic tenet of witness confirmation, paganprophet. "...at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established." - Deuteronomy 19:15.

This is why this single prophet angle is not going to wash with most of us. How to you propose to confirm your prophesies?

[bananabrain]

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

Jesus said, "By their fruits ye shall know them" (Matthew 7:15-20). BUT then the Question can be asked, "WHAT fruit?"

that's right! show us your vegetables!

G!D has given me the information in one hand that destroys the foundations of the Abrahamic religions

gosh! how interesting! what is it?

But FaithfulServant, what happens when the WORD itself is corrupt?

again, how do you know? based on what? show me something corrupt in the Torah!

I guess my last membership was memorable for you.

er... perhaps if you tell me who you used to be, it might jog my memory. we get a lot of self-proclaimed prophets here - it's a bit like that scene in "life of brian" - "and there shall be a great wondering about where things really are, especially those little things made out of sort of basketwork" - "AND THERE SHALL BE NOINE KEYS! NOT ONE, NOT TWO, BUT NOINE!!!". in line with that, i think i shall respond:

Bananabrain, there is no more religious authority for the sanhedrins, rabbis, priests, pastors, imams, or mullahs. God has taken it away but you don't know it and I do. It's our job as prophets to know such things.

he's making it up as he goes along! "G!D has Taken it away" - based on what, exactly?

Yes, you can throw the forum rules at me but if I'm kicked off again what have you accomplished?

a safe haven from cranks?

You really think anyone here thinks I'm selling snake oil remedies or breast implants?

no. what you're doing is far worse.

I have no religious cult organization to promote.

no, you have a book to sell. hmmmmm.

I tell of what God has given me in mystical visions, revelations and God-guided research.

how do you know it was G!D?

It will be CR's loss if I am again not allowed to share this information because of ego turf battles.

i believe we could survive it.

i suggest we now have an enormous schism based on whether paganprophet is a man or a woman.

show us a sign, master!!

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

have the feeling your revelation will be some unwearable tank-top too.

hur, hur, hur.

b'shalom

bananabrain

[paganprophet]

"You are already violating a basic tenet of witness confirmation, paganprophet. "...at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established." - Deuteronomy 19:15."

Got over 500 Nazarean witnesses in Israel.

In the sum of my religious experiences over the last 28 years I have two great visions to share. One of them confirmed a spiritual connection between that went unseen by me for 25 years in my own spiritual path that was quietly building a bridge between Old World Holy Land religious tradition and New World Native American spirituality. This was when I and my daughter and my son-in-law and my Native American friends realized I truly was carrying something special because God had brought them into this..event..now going on. God had united us not only by shared spiritual vision but by blood line as well.

So, folks, I have been doing spiritual work for some years and it's spiritual power to affect others keeps growing--all without ever trying to promote this as a new organized religion or make a dime off it. God in Their humor keeps me in close contact with the poor and I have been an upstanding member of the Clan of the K-Mart her in California for most of my adult life.

But after I returned from Israel last time thinking I'd finished the job assigned and could retire unscathed and unmolested as a prophesy bearer, God upped the ante a few months later and rained down this seemingly unending New set of instruction and stuff to tell the world and all of it guaranteed to royally piss off everyone. So I set to work as the good "muslim" I am, (meaning I have indeed surrendered my life to doing the will of God) on the new set..

Which involved a return to Israel and the OPT. Then I was asked to return to Nazareth this year to again participate in their annual Easter event, the procession through town to the courtyard of the Basilica of the Annunciation. But I couldn't go because I was diagnosed with a cancer, prostate, and that changed my schedule to say the least. I am dealing with it and should lick it but one never knows, it did kill my father.

And then I find the website about two weeks ago? that confirmed some stuff I had first learned of around 1999 and had pushed out of awareness.
The information is out there but it doesn't seem to be registering in any reputable scholars topic agendas that I've seen.

But I'm not a scholar. I let God deliver the information I need because there is so much out there, how do you begin to know where to begin to choose which book contains that which you need to know? And God does deliver. Oh, boy, do They..

Should have the website finished after tomorrow. Then I will post the damning information and direction to my website where all my spiritual and secular social change visions and revelations and research information is contained.

And yes, bananabrain, the Torah has failed..Big time..

[InLove]

Hello paganprophet--

Hmmm...Native American? No doubt you will be more specific in the longrun, surely?

So sorry to hear about your dad. And I will lift you up in your struggle with cancer. I know how that is--different type, of course, but very difficult, nonetheless.

So, I am guessing that you do not believe that the Torah was given to Israel from G-d? I'm sorry, I find it rather troubling for you to make that suggestion here. But then, I see I am not alone in that.

InPeace,
InLove

[paganprophet]

When I say the Torah wasn't given by God I do mean the written Torah, the five books of Moses. If it had been given by God then the writers of Moses would have known about their false myths of origin and not written them.

[Tao_Equus]

Well I am happy to announce that I have, after hacking the new FBI supercomputer to do my search, managed to track down a video of Paganprophets first trip to the holy land!!

YouTube - Funniest bit of 'life of brian'


















(Pagan I hope you realise I do this in the name of humour alone )

[Sunny C.]

Is this prophecy forthcoming in the near future? I mean, three pages and no prophecy yet. I for one would like to hear it.