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juantoo3 · 08-03-2008, 06:33 AM

Kindest Regards, islamis4u.

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Originally Posted by islamis4u

You know brother im very busy i have almost 3 sites to control only by myself with my education life and also my personal life now a days im giving many university test for adm, you know many havn't replied my posts and im waiting for them, i know how i take time out.....

You sound like a rather busy person. I think you will find my answers in my previous post to farhan. I apologize if I missed any of your posts before, I don't respond to everybody as my time is limited too.

In short, my main concern that sparked my response was the error in your logic. Logic must work in all directions to be true logic. If it is only valid in one direction and not in another it is false logic.

False logic is great for filling people's minds with doubt and hatred, but it cannot be said to be *truth.*

Shalom

cyberpi · 08-03-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

And prosecution is something I am very good at. Because I simply use your own words against you, for the jury to decide. True democracy at it's best.

Excellent. Moderate others as you would that they Moderate you. I call Alex to my jury and I further call Alex as a witness:

Alex, did you feel from my words what Quahom1 said with his words? Specifically, do you feel less intelligent as a result of reading my words, or did you think that any of my words were an attempt to make you feel less intelligent than me?

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

The play on words used by some to attempt to give you the feeling that you aren't as intelligent as they are.

Quahom1 · 08-03-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by juantoo3

...False logic is great for filling people's minds with doubt and hatred, but it cannot be said to be *truth.*

Shalom

Juan, I'm not certain, but I think that's, "Saalam"...

17th Angel · 08-03-2008, 04:13 PM

Shalom is the word "peace" in Hebrew...

Salaam is the word "peace" in Arabic... So which ever it doesn't really matter only difference is the language... Tomato tamato...

Quahom1 · 08-03-2008, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex P

Shalom is the word "peace" in Hebrew...

Salaam is the word "peace" in Arabic... So which ever it doesn't really matter only difference is the language... Tomato tamato...

Not to one who may have a disdain for the other...

In America, two fingers up and split into a Y shape mean peace...In Australia, it means something less benign...lol

17th Angel · 08-03-2008, 04:24 PM

Two fingers came from england.... It was used as an inslut/mock by our unmatched superior long bowers.... You see the enemy would cut the fingers off bowman... So they were shown, to show they had their finger and that your name was on their arrows

And when turned backwards it takes the meaning of peace lol... But that is a signal/symbol... Not a word.. A word means what the word means... Only if you twist it completley can it mean something else... Peace is peace.. :P And should you use the word peace if you have, as you say distain (lightly put) for another? Where is the peace lol......

It's like rappers "going to shoot this mofo" "pop a cap in the blood!" "Take out this crypt" "yo n-----r let's rise up and take out some n----rs!!!" "I'ma cop killa!!!! And thats how we roll!!! PEACE!!!"

Peace? lol what you talkin aboot?

Quahom1 · 08-03-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex P

Two fingers came from england.... It was used as an inslut/mock by our unmatched superior long bowers.... You see the enemy would cut the fingers off bowman... So they were shown, to show they had their finger and that your name was on their arrows

And when turned backwards it takes the meaning of peace lol... But that is a signal/symbol... Not a word.. A word means what the word means... Only if you twist it completley can it mean something else... Peace is peace.. :P And should you use the word peace if you have, as you say distain (lightly put) for another? Where is the peace lol......

It's like rappers "going to shoot this mofo" "pop a cap in the blood!" "Take out this crypt" "yo n-----r let's rise up and take out some n----rs!!!" "I'ma cop killa!!!! And thats how we roll!!! PEACE!!!"

Peace? lol what you talkin aboot?

Thanks for the education...I didn't know that about the long bowmen.

Peace usually begins between enemies, with a truce...held in good faith by both (oh damn there is that word "faith" again). It goes from there hopefully to bigger and better things.

Look at us Alex. 196 years ago, Your countrymen burned my countrymen's capital to the ground. (Do you know how hard it is to clean up a burnt "white house"?) lol

60 years ago, my countrymen were throwing themselves on grenades to keep your country men alive (and vise versa), and together we beat the enemies of our way of life.

Today, we are more or less married to each other with one child speaking with a British clip, and another tending towards an American southern drawl...

Whatcha think about that pardner?

17th Angel · 08-03-2008, 08:01 PM

Yeah it's great to learn things!

I am finding enjoyment in it!

Indeed one point we are raising your capital to ash, the next we are by the your side in times of struggle, and then we are unified with as you say "a way of life." What do I think about it? I think it shows that no matter what has happened in the past, we can learn to become better people(nations) and rise above it and choose alliances instead of enemies.

Quahom1 · 08-03-2008, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex P

Yeah it's great to learn things!

I am finding enjoyment in it!

Indeed one point we are raising your capital to ash, the next we are by the your side in times of struggle, and then we are unified with as you say "a way of life." What do I think about it? I think it shows that no matter what has happened in the past, we can learn to become better people(nations) and rise above it and choose alliances instead of enemies.

I think it means "passion" for another, and takes many forms. In the worst of times that emotion makes enemies, while in the best of times, it makes for lovers. Same intense "you matter to me", just different reasons and thinking.

What gets me (and I suppose what Nick A is trying to expound on), are those that feel nothing. They, I opine are the walking dead...

Christ, warned us not to fall into the trap of feeling nothing towards each other. He of course prefers that we "love" rather than hate, but at least he can work with that human passion either way. He can't do much with a dead fish, except feed them to the hungry...but what he wants is our souls to be hungry/thirsty. 'Cause he's got just what we need to be satisfied. and it isn't a dead fish...

cyberpi · 08-04-2008, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Alex P

See I have never heard the word used in such a term, most used to it being for phrases such as "The jig is up!!!!"

Did you feel that your intelligence was compromised by my use of words? Did you think my words were an attempt to make you feel any less intelligent than me?

17th Angel · 08-04-2008, 09:09 AM

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Did you feel that your intelligence was compromised by my use of words? Did you think my words were an attempt to make you feel any less intelligent than me?

Not really, as I said, it's cool...

juantoo3 · 08-05-2008, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

Juan, I'm not certain, but I think that's, "Saalam"...

Thanks Q, but I chose that particular word quite carefully.

Shalom.

Quahom1 · 08-05-2008, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by juantoo3

Thanks Q, but I chose that particular word quite carefully.

Shalom.

Of course you did...just checking...

Vajradhara · 08-05-2008, 07:53 AM

Namaste Islamis4u,

thank you for the post.

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Originally Posted by islamis4u

Sorry for late replies as you know im a busy person much on my head to cop-up with so, anyways. About this look first we never say that Muhammad (PBUH) is (naouzbillah) God so question never i arsis about it. But Christian claims that Jesus (PBUH) is (naouzbillah) God, so if He(PBUH) is then why did not he said that in the Bible ???? We also never say that Prophet MUHAMMAD (PBUH) wrote Qu'ran Rather we say and is true and believe that its Allah's word.

the objection isn't the claims it's regarding the logic being employed as it excludes Al Qur'an from the same critique which you are apply to the Bible.

Christians don't claim that Jesus wrote the Bible anymore than Muslims claims that Muhammad wrote Al Qur'an. both religions readily acknowledge that someone else wrote the words which are attributed to the figure in question. you hold the Bibles claims to be unreliable due to this but you view Al Qu'ran as reliable when, if you are being consistent, it should be viewed as unreliable as well.

i realize that you cannot do so as a Muslim but that is where the objection lies, for me, not with particular claims.

metta,

~v

Vajradhara · 08-05-2008, 11:50 PM

Namaste all,

i mistakenly edited Farhans reply to this thread when i meant to quote it instead.

please accept my apologies.

metta,

~v