Global Warming Watch

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by flowperson

It appears that even Snoopy understood what I meant, and he is a foreign gentleman of an advanced age.
flow....

Are you certain I can't be offended?

Still, I suppose I at least seem to have a use as some sort of benchmark.

s.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Snoopy

How so? (I get the fido bit)

s.

Well the day I posted that you had made a "defiant" post on some thread or other, (which I liked), and de (the) and fido...it just sort of all seemed right at the time. Nothing too deep tho

Tao

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Well the day I posted that you had made a "defiant" post on some thread or other, (which I liked), and de (the) and fido...it just sort of all seemed right at the time. Nothing too deep tho

Tao

Me...defiant...? Maybe I need to go back on the decaff!!!

s.

[flowperson]

Okay Snoopy, where are you hiding ? I'm halfway through the Ballard stories and I must say that he's a bit of a "downer". However his writing style and content is superb.

He's so good that it kind of makes me wish that there was going to be a doomsday coming. But then he wrote this stuff in times where dismal outcomes were believed more often than not.

Okay, back to the business at hand. I'm sure that Ballard, if he's still around, would revel in news articles such as this. Hey, maybe he's even writing them these days.

Stay well my friend.

flow....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071117/...BGp3Sprl2s0NUE

[flowperson]

Okay Snoopy. If you choose to hide from the truth, that's okay by me.
Here's a NY Times editorial which lists "must dos" in accordance with what has been revealed by scientists.

I have noted, however, that many conservatives ( including our fearless USA President ) are still dragging both feet and are in denial *I'm not talking about wading in an Egyptian River here either *. Of course they may also be reading and believing the fictions in Michael Crichton novels, (His publisher Harper-Collins is owned by Rupert ).

Not many people know that W owns a totally "off-the-grid" residence at his Texas ranch. Kind of makes you wonder where all of this is headed, huh?

flow....

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/20/op...r=1&oref=login

[flowperson]

This makes a lot of sense in terms of what to do to be able to help our oceans remain viable, which likely means it won't be done.

Since the United States is spending this much EVERY DAY to continue a useless war in Iraq, it seems to be a very small amount to pay in order to help out the oceans of the planet which benefit every living thing on the Earth. Or have I missed something in my logic here ?

flow....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071125/...ceans_study_dc

[flowperson]

I wonder if they will be able to improve the reaction times and judgements of basketball referees with this work ?

flow....

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/A...-Research.html

[flowperson]

Hi...For a long time now we've been told by people "in the know" that we could make huge changes in our capacity to ruin our environment by making relatively small changes in our energy consumption habits and through our technology acquisition strategies. Here's some proof.

flow....

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/30/business/30green.html

[flowperson]

I hope that the representatives attending the Global Warming meeting in Bali this week read this one.

flow....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071206/...HY5p329Y.s0NUE

[flowperson]

This sounds hopeful. Anything would be better than burning up our grain stores.

flow....

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Grass biofuels 'cut CO2 by 94%'

[Tao_Equus]

Some sceptics of climate change have cited the stability of Antarctic ice sheets as proof that Global Warming is a myth and that its just a blip we are observing elsewhere. This 10 year survey of the Antarctic shows that there is rapid melting taking place, and as the article states could spell changes in mean global sea level of meters rather than inches as currently predicted. De mal, en pis, en pis ... as one might say in French.

washingtonpost.com

[wil]

Globally warming the seas are rising, methane escaping!!

Hate to spoil the fun but the next ice age is coming, NOW!!

um, er, just thought you might want to know, the sky is falling.

[Tao_Equus]

Lol, There is so much nonsense spoken that we find it hard to believe anything these days. The 2nd article fails to mention that the Arctic recorded by far its lowest ice cover last summer, or more huge ice sheets detached from Antarctica, or that the glaciers of Greenland, the Himalayas, the alps, the rockies and the andes all continued to retreat faster than ever. That second article nails its colours firmly to the mast in the final line, a quote of Oliver Cromwell. A man who believed in butchering everyone who did not share his opinion. The right wing may have lost the last election in Australia but it has not begun to rethink its rhetoric.

Tao

[ciberpy]

Originally Posted by cyberpi

The major difference between gas and liquid is entropy. With a cycle of gas rising, and liquid falling, the difference between them is the entropy that the planet gets rid of. That cycle is what the planet needs more of now than ever to keep up with life. That cycle cools the planet, increases water supplies, cleans the air, waters the plant life... many good things. The cycle can be driven. It is driven and powered by the sun. What is required is offering it up more abundantly to the sun. Trees perform that function.

The cycle is like a rotary engine. Sunlight is the fuel. The clouds perform the commutation. We need to find the accelerator to the engine, which will rev up the cycle. The accelerator is evaporation... whatever increases evaporation. Surface area. Thin water layer. Solar target. Thermal isolation. Air flow.

Many animals have fur to hold their temperature, both to keep warm and to keep cool, and animals need an ample supply of water. So must the planet. The fur of the planet are the trees. Trees evaporate water. Trees need water so that they can release entropy while storing energy. Trees increase the solid surface area of the planet. Don't hug an old tree... plant three new ones. Plant them on rooftops. Plant them over oceans.

I have seen this understanding taking stronger root in the world in a few places.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

This summer north west Europe has witnessed unprecedented weather. Never before have so many low pressure weather systems brought so much rain. As I type large swathes of England and Wales are under meters of flood water. Areas that have never before recorded flooding now do.

Tao

The same here. My backyard, way out back remains wet through the entire summer for the last 3 years & you can not mow back there any more. I am hoping this summer will be different but my neighbor & a friend a couple of miles away has noticed the same problem and the water isn't going down. I have also noted the bigger trees are not doing so well back there and two of them have fallen that should not have fallen. We had 3 local floods last year of which two of them impacted this section of town & that is a flood that should be about a 25 year thing, not 3 times in one year. I have also noticed one of the city bike paths is consistently under water and it never used to be under water or even close to being under water.

I can't help but think of the polar bears and penguins who will be extinct in just a few of decades because too many humans are not paying attention to what they are doing & have done to the earth. With about 90% of the large fish in the ocean gone, I think it is time man stops disrespecting the planet & starts looking at the earth as more than something to take advantage of.