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09-08-2008, 01:12 AM
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God will step in
"And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin.
And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; Daniel 2;44
yes ,while manmade rulerships are still ruling the God of heaven has set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin..
and that kingdom will not be passed to other people, the reason why is because JESUS is the king of that kingdom ,and he has immortality and he will never die.
that kingdom will crush and put an end to all those other kingships and rulerships, and it will stand forever.,
and according to bible prophecy and chronology, that heavenly kingdom was set up and established in heaven in 1914.
soon the reigning king JESUS CHRIST will go into action , and then they will know that JEHOVAH IS GOD and JESUS is the son of God.
For any nation and any kingdom that will not serve you will perish; and the nations themselves will without fail come to devastation.ISAIAH 60;12 ... PSALM 2;12
You will break them with an iron scepter,
As though a potter’s vessel you will dash them to pieces.PSALM 2;9
Jehovah himself at your right hand
Will certainly break kings to pieces on the day of his anger.PSALM 110;5
the kings of earth take their stand
And high officials themselves have massed together as one
Against Jehovah and against his anointed one,
PSALM 2;2
have you put your vote in yet?
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09-12-2008, 11:45 AM
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Re: God will step in
God will step into the affairs of man DANIEL 2;44
have you put your vote in yet for GODS HEAVENLY KINGDOM GOVERMENT
kiss the son PSALM 2;12
so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.
PHILLIPIANS 2;10-11
MEE HAS VOTED because it is the way to PEACE on the earth.
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09-22-2008, 02:10 AM
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Re: God will step in
This is my 911 Psalm This is the one I use when Im in serious trouble. Its a promise of God and we know that His promises are Yes and in them AMEN
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Psalm 91
He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High Shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. I will say of the Lord, "He is my refuge and my fortress; My God, in Him I will trust." Surely He shall deliver you from the snare of the fowler And from the perilous pestilence. He shall cover you with His feathers, And under His wings you shall take refuge; His truth shall be your shield and buckler. You shall not be afraid of the terror by night, Nor of the arrow that flies by day, Nor of the pestilence that walks in darkness, Nor of the destruction that lays waste at noonday. A thousand may fall at your side, And ten thousand at your right hand; But it shall not come near you. Only with your eyes shall you look, And see the reward of the wicked. Because you have made the Lord, who is my refuge, Even the Most High, your dwelling place, No evil shall befall you, Nor shall any plague come near your dwelling; For He shall give His angels charge over you, To keep you in all your ways. In their hands they shall bear you up, Lest you dash your foot against a stone. You shall tread upon the lion and the cobra, The young lion and the serpent you shall trample underfoot. "Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore I will deliver him; I will set him on high, because he has known My name. He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him and honor him. With long life I will satisfy him, And show him My salvation."
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09-22-2008, 09:32 AM
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Re: God will step in
91:1, 2—What is "the secret place of the Most High," and how may we ‘dwell’ there?
This is a figurative place of spiritual safety and security—a condition or state of protection from being harmed spiritually
. The place is secret because it is unknown to those who do not trust in God.
We make Jehovah our dwelling by looking to him as our refuge and stronghold,
by lauding him as the Sovereign Ruler of the universe, and by preaching the good news of the Kingdom. We feel spiritually secure because we know that Jehovah is always ready to help us.—Psalm 90:1.
There is no safer refuge or more formidable stronghold than our Sovereign Lord, Jehovah
Proverbs 18:10.
The name of Jehovah is a strong tower. Into it the righteous runs and is given protection.
Although we suffer "adversities" in the form of persecution as Christians, we are joyful and spiritually secure "in the secret place of the Most High."
Jehovah was a refuge and a stronghold for the man Jesus Christ, even as He is for Jesus’ anointed followers and their dedicated companions as a group in this "time of the end."—Daniel 12:4.
May we always view Jehovah’s reminders and directions as protective, never as restrictive.
Yes God will step in to the affairs of man very soon Daniel 2;44
and it will be
THE PERFECT GOVERNMENT OF PEACE. From the time that man lost the first paradise till now, human government has remained under the control of Satan, "the god of this system of things." (2 Cor. 4:4)
The wars, the cruelties, the corruption and the instability of man’s governments prove this fact.
The League of Nations and the United Nations have failed to bring peace out of the confusion.
Mankind cries out for a government of peace.
Is it not reasonable that the Creator, who purposes to restore paradise to this earth, would also provide a perfect government for that paradise?
That is exactly what Jehovah has purposed to do.
The king representing him in this government is his "Prince of Peace," Christ Jesus, and "to the abundance of the princely rule and to peace there will be no end."
Isa. 9:6, 7.
and it is VERY GOOD 
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09-22-2008, 01:42 PM
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Re: God will step in
mee, I don't mean to sound the damp towel on your enthusiasm, but people seem to have been waiting a couple of thousand years for God to step in, yet despite huge wars, genocides, plagues, and destruction unprecedented, I'm having difficulty seeing where God has actually stepped in?
Isn't it more important for individuals to try and do what is right, instead of just sat around waiting for someone else to clear up our own mess?
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09-22-2008, 04:17 PM
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Re: God will step in
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mee, I don't mean to sound the damp towel on your enthusiasm, but people seem to have been waiting a couple of thousand years for God to step in, yet despite huge wars, genocides, plagues, and destruction unprecedented, I'm having difficulty seeing where God has actually stepped in?
Isn't it more important for individuals to try and do what is right, instead of just sat around waiting for someone else to clear up our own mess?
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I agree, I, Brian
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09-23-2008, 08:49 AM
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Re: God will step in
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mee, I don't mean to sound the damp towel on your enthusiasm, but people seem to have been waiting a couple of thousand years for God to step in, yet despite huge wars, genocides, plagues, and destruction unprecedented, I'm having difficulty seeing where God has actually stepped in?
Isn't it more important for individuals to try and do what is right, instead of just sat around waiting for someone else to clear up our own mess?
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yes i agree it is important to try and do the right things , and the bible has all the instructions for putting ourselves on the right side of God and working along with his purpose for the earth .
and that merciful God JEHOVAH, and his purpose for the earth are now well along and the START of the last days was 1914 and soon THE REIGNING KING JESUS will go into action.
daniel 2;44
the heavenly kingdom is NOW all set up and well established, and things are moving ahead at a great pace.
putting ourselves on the side of GODS HEAVENLY KINGDOM is the thing to be doing
And in the days of those kings (human kings and rulerships)the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin.
And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms,(human rulerships) and it itself will stand to times indefinite;
forasmuch as you beheld that out of the mountain a stone was cut not by hands, and [that] it crushed the iron, the copper, the molded clay, the silver and the gold. The grand God himself has made known to the king what is to occur after this. And the dream is reliable, and the interpretation of it is trustworthy."
yes its all happening in this time of the end , DANIEL 12;4
how do we respond to the GOODNEWS about the kingdom matthew 24;14
it is being made known and it is being heralded, and it is for a witness, or to put people on notice.
responding in the right way will put us on the right side of things .
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09-23-2008, 10:56 AM
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Re: God will step in
mee, what work are the JW's doing on environmentalism?
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09-23-2008, 12:13 PM
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mee, what work are the JW's doing on environmentalism?
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 the only thing that i will say as one of JEHOVAHS WITNESSES is this
if anyone wants to share in the rehabilitation of the earth, ‘Then please learn what God requires of you by studying the Bible.’JOHN 17;3
IT WILL LEAD TO LIVING IN A PARADISE EARTH
will this Great Architect(Jehovah) allow man to wipe out all the rain forests and ruin our earth?
An outstanding prophecy in the Bible answers this question directly. It reads: "But the nations became wrathful, and your [God’s] own wrath came, and the appointed time . . . to bring to ruin those ruining the earth."—Revelation 11:18.
There are two remarkable things about that prophecy. First, it points to the time when man would actually be able to ruin the entire earth.
When those words were written two thousand years ago, man could no more ruin the earth than fly to the moon.
But today he does both.
Second, the prophecy answers the question of whether man will completely ruin the earth—with a resounding no!
God made man to take care of the earth and cultivate it, not strip it bare.
In ancient Israel he set limits on the deforestation his people carried out as they conquered the Promised Land. (Deuteronomy 20:19, 20)
He promises that all mankind in the near future will live in harmony with the environment.—1 John 2:17; Jeremiah 10:10-12.
The Bible offers hope, hope for a time when man will cultivate the earth into a paradise instead of bulldozing it into a desert, mend it instead of mauling it, tend it farsightedly instead of greedily milking it dry for a moment’s gain. The forests have a future.
The corrupt system of things that is ruining them and all the earth has none.
 GOD WILL STEP IN  lets not lose the right focus
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09-23-2008, 12:26 PM
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Re: God will step in
Mee:- "  GOD WILL STEP IN  lets not lose the right focus"
I agree, it's just a case of when exactly though isn't it. Man is quite happy helping to destroy this planet I agree, and stripping everything out of it and not replacing. Depleting it's resources. However, regardless of what man does the earth goes through cycles, as it has done before with an ice age for example, and there will be more cycles to come. The greenhouse effect etc would still happen, it's just that with our carelessness we are speeding it up.
So you could say we are making the kingdon of God come quicker, as man will be in such a sorry state that God will have to intervene at some point?
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09-24-2008, 08:17 AM
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So you could say we are making the kingdon of God come quicker, as man will be in such a sorry state that God will have to intervene at some point?
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Jehovahs appointed day will not be late , even if we think he is delaying he knows the right time to go into action. what is important is to be ready for that day .
"The great day of Jehovah is near. It is near, and there is a hurrying of it very much."ZEPHANIAH 1:14.
JEHOVAH’S great day is not 24 hours long.
Seek Seek Seek
Turning to the Bible book of Zephaniah, chapter 2, verses 2 and 3, we read what Jehovah requires for salvation:
"Before there comes upon you people the burning anger of Jehovah, before there comes upon you the day of Jehovah’s anger, seek Jehovah, all you meek ones of the earth, who have practiced His own judicial decision.
Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably you may be concealed in the day of Jehovah’s anger." Note the word "probably." It is not a case of once saved, always saved.
Our concealment in that day depends on our continuing to do those three things. We must seek Jehovah, seek righteousness, and seek meekness.
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09-24-2008, 12:23 PM
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You make Jehovah sound like such an angry God at times mee, scary stuff!
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09-24-2008, 12:25 PM
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Re: God will step in
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even if we think he is delaying he knows the right time to go into action.
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We cannot even fathom and understand time like him... To us what seems like ages is but a blink of an eye...
I once asked YHWH How long a million years felt to him, and he said like one second.... I then asked him how much a million pounds were worth to him, and he replied one penny... So I then asked YHWH for a penny and he replied "Sure in a second..."
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09-24-2008, 12:28 PM
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Re: God will step in
lol, Alex.
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09-24-2008, 03:29 PM
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Re: God will step in
mee, what I mean is - are the JW's just following rules and waiting around for God to sort everything out, or are JW's active in say environmental causes where they can at least help with some of the cleaning up process?
Simply that if people site around waiting for two thousand years for people to clean up their own mess, they end up living in a mess - but if over 2000 years people had actually made more effort to clean up their own mess as they made it, then wouldn't that be a better situation overall for everybody? And then we could wait for God to finally turn up and say "Hm, not as bad as it could have been. Well done for cleaning your room while I was out."
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