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Old 10-05-2008, 12:47 AM   #16 (permalink)
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It's not though lol...... And you say it doesn't matter to call him by other forms???? Yet you say it is wrong to call him LORD, The Lord, GOD, or whatever? How do you justify that? I can't see how you can with a lack of accuracy make YHWH to jehovah... And say that is cool but for someone to call him "god" or "lord" isn't ok.... Forgive me all if I am wrong but that just comes across as very hypocritical.. And If you have 'Exclusive' rights to make up the rules and name of god... :/

lord and God are titles they do not contain the consonents


In the Hebrew language it is written . These four letters, called the Tetragrammaton, are read from right to left in Hebrew and can be represented in many modern languages as YHWH or JHVH. God's name, represented by these four consonants, appears almost 7,000 times in the original "Old Testament," or Hebrew Scriptures.
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Old 10-05-2008, 12:51 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Ooooh, ok I see so it has to have Hebrew tetragrammaton? Ok I think I am understanding what you mean... So If I make a pseudo Hebrew name that would be acceptable? Praise YaHaWaHa
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Ooooh, ok I see so it has to have Hebrew tetragrammaton? Ok I think I am understanding what you mean... So If I make a pseudo Hebrew name that would be acceptable? Praise YaHaWaHa
that is nearly like the Cantonese - Yehwowah.

mee is English so i use JEHOVAH




Forms of the divine name in different languages, indicating international acceptance of the form Jehovah
Awabakal - Yehóa
Bugotu - Jihova
Cantonese - Yehwowah
Danish - Jehova
Dutch - Jehovah
Efik - Jehovah
English - Jehovah
Fijian - Jiova
Finnish - Jehova
French - Jéhovah
Futuna - Ihova
German - Jehova
Hungarian - Jehova
Igbo - Jehova
Italian - Geova
Japanese - Ehoba
Maori - Ihowa
Motu - Iehova
Mwala-Malu - Jihova
Narrinyeri - Jehovah
Nembe - Jihova
Petats - Jihouva
Polish - Jehowa
Portuguese - Jeová
Romanian - Iehova
Samoan - Ieova
Sotho - Jehova
Spanish - Jehová
Swahili - Yehova
Swedish - Jehova
Tahitian - Iehova
Tagalog - Jehova
Tongan - Jihova
Venda - Yehova
Xhosa - uYehova
Yoruba - Jehofah
Zulu - uJehova
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Have you been taught to use God's name, Jehovah? If not, your salvation is in jeopardy, for "everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved"! -- Acts 2:21; compare Joel 2:32.
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You ever read that article?..
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Interesting...

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Have you been taught to use God's name, Jehovah? If not, your salvation is in jeopardy, for "everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved"! -- Acts 2:21; compare Joel 2:32.
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You ever read that article?..
good verses there very true

knowing is what it is all about which brings John 17;3 to mind

This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.
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a superstitious idea arose among the Jews that it was wrong to say the divine name out loud;
Interesting, the folks that wrote the book don't know what they are doing. Glad we have you to set us right.
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good verses there very true

knowing is what it is all about which brings John 17;3 to mind

This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.
How can a monotheist have the only true G!d? Who are these other gods you admit to?

As for the names and pronunciations of Jehovah. I'd say if you asked 100 people in every one of those languages the name of the creator you'd not get the responses you'd like. But then you'd say they don't know the bible.

quite convenient that.
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:48 PM   #22 (permalink)
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[quote=wil;164823]Interesting, the folks that wrote the book don't know what they are doing.

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i think you will find they knew exactly what they were doing . many become influenced by thoughts of men , even translators .


When it came to God's name, instead of putting the proper vowel signs around it, in most cases they put other vowel signs to remind the reader that he should say 'Adho·nai'.(sovreign Lord)


thats how much the superstition had made head way ,



Throughout the history of the Israelites right up until the time that they returned to Judah after their captivity in Babylon, Jehovah's name continued in common usage.



King David, a man agreeable to God's own heart, used the divine name extensively—it appears hundreds of times in the psalms that he wrote. acts 13;22

God's name was also incorporated in many Israelite personal names. Thus we read of Adonijah ("My Lord Is Jah"—"Jah" is a shortened form of Jehovah),


Isaiah ("Salvation of Jehovah"),


Jonathan ("Jehovah Has Given"),

Micah ("Who is like Jah?")

and Joshua ("Jehovah Is Salvation").
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Old 10-05-2008, 03:52 PM   #23 (permalink)
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[quote=wil;164823] How can a monotheist have the only true G!d? Who are these other gods you admit to?

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make no mistake there are many so called Gods out there , but there is only one MOST HIGH psalm 83;18.
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Thus we read of Adonijah ("My Lord Is Jah"—"Jah" is a shortened form of Jehovah)
We see plainly that the Israelites considered it most improper to use the full name in day-to-day usage.
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I quite like the Holman Bible it is very clear about how the name of God is translated

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The names of God: The Holman Christian Standard Bible OT consistently translates the Hebrew names for God as follows:

Holman CSB English Hebrew original
God: Elohim
LORD: YHWH (Yahweh)
Lord: Adonai
Lord GOD: Adonai Yahweh
LORD of Hosts: Yahweh Sabaoth
God Almighty: El Shaddai

However, the Holman CSB OT uses Yahweh, the personal name of God in Hebrew, when a biblical text emphasizes Yahweh as a name: His name is Yahweh (Ps 68:4). Yahweh is used more often in the Holman CSB than in most Bible translations because the word LORD in English is a title of God and does not accurately convey to modern readers the emphasis on God's name in the original Hebrew.
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We see plainly that the Israelites considered it most improper to use the full name in day-to-day usage.
and yet their own scriptures said some thing quite the opposite , JEHOVAH wanted his name to be made known

but they thought up their own thoughts silly superstitions even removed the name from the scriptures . not good
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I quite like the Holman Bible it is very clear about how the name of God is translated
yes , many translations have removed the name completley and just put titles in instead such as LORD .


Gods name has great meaning it means HE CAUSE TO BECOME


According to the King James Version rendering of Exodus 3:13, 14, Moses asked: "When I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."


About this text, The Pentateuch and Haftorahs (Hebrew text with English translation and exposition, edited by Dr. J. H. Hertz) says that in the phrase "I am that I am . . . the emphasis is on the active manifestation of the Divine existence." Its use as a title or name for God was therefore appropriate because by delivering them from Egyptian bondage, God was about to manifest his existence in behalf of his people in an outstanding way.

Hertz says that "most moderns follow Rashi [a renowned medieval French Bible and Talmud commentator] in rendering ‘I will be what I will be.’" This agrees with the rendering of the New World Translation, which reads: "I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE."
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I heard JHVH was pronounced... YAHAVA... as the JHVH (tetragrammaton) did not have vowels... I can see then how this became Jehovah...
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Gods name in the bible is JEHOVAH
PSALM 83;18
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