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03-16-2007, 05:50 PM
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merely a shadow...
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Originally Posted by wil
I'm not mad at you, no worries. So you don't attend a church or study group...and you come in the name of peace and humbleness to indicate that the Pope and Catholics are in cahoots with the devil...
I'm still confused. (Dor this is not me acting stupid...just me plain not understanding)
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I don't blame you for being confused. the majority of man is confused because of catholicism. catholicism is presented by the pope. the pope in turn walks around in long, elegant ropes (stiffneck) with a a staff with the Christ crucified on it. is there humility there. no. catholicism right off the bat is breaking Commandments. namely, Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me. they do that with the crucifix and image of the "queen of heaven". and not only that, they do it in public. that is the devil's handywork. i could go on and on about how filthy that system is.
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03-16-2007, 06:48 PM
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UNeyeR1
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22
I don't blame you for being confused.
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My confusion lies in what appears to be your selective nature. You are on the Christian board discussing Christian topics yet flame a Christian denomination and stand up for perceived mistreatment of a Muslim. Now I appreciate and enjoy discussions with inhumility, however in this location he was overstepping his bounds, wearing out his welcome as it were and was told so. You entered late in the game and gave Luna grief about this...
So since you say you don't belong to a church, are you Muslim perhaps? The guessing game is only continuing since you are not forthcoming.
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03-16-2007, 08:11 PM
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merely a shadow...
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Originally Posted by wil
My confusion lies in what appears to be your selective nature. You are on the Christian board discussing Christian topics yet flame a Christian denomination and stand up for perceived mistreatment of a Muslim. Now I appreciate and enjoy discussions with inhumility, however in this location he was overstepping his bounds, wearing out his welcome as it were and was told so. You entered late in the game and gave Luna grief about this...
So since you say you don't belong to a church, are you Muslim perhaps? The guessing game is only continuing since you are not forthcoming.
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i am nothing, man. why are you concentrating on me. we should exalt His name together. does it matter what religion he is or i am or you are? can you understand that we are plain and simple, just sinners, still awaiting the 7th day? don't look at me. look for Him. i just want to talk about God. I love Him with all my heart, soul, and mind. can you understand that? don't look at me. look at Him.
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03-16-2007, 08:17 PM
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What was the question?
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22
i am nothing, man. why are you concentrating on me. we should exalt His name together. does it matter what religion he is or i am or you are? can you understand that we are plain and simple, just sinners, still awaiting the 7th day? don't look at me. look for Him. i just want to talk about God. I love Him with all my heart, soul, and mind. can you understand that? don't look at me. look at Him.
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Adventist Leo? Welcome.
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03-16-2007, 08:21 PM
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UNeyeR1
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22
i am nothing, man. why are you concentrating on me. we should exalt His name together. does it matter what religion he is or i am or you are? can you understand that we are plain and simple, just sinners, still awaiting the 7th day? don't look at me. look for Him. i just want to talk about God. I love Him with all my heart, soul, and mind. can you understand that? don't look at me. look at Him.
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I can understand that philosophy, which even makes me more confused as to why you single out Catholics to vent at. I mean they love G-d do they not? They worship in their way...much as Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Bahai, all worship G-d in their way...is what you are indicating now? That it matters not what religion we are, but that we all worship G-d?
Now the Seventh Day, can you help me with that? On the seventh day he finished and rested...has it not gone by?
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03-16-2007, 08:25 PM
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03-16-2007, 10:18 PM
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merely a shadow...
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Originally Posted by wil
I can understand that philosophy, which even makes me more confused as to why you single out Catholics to vent at. I mean they love G-d do they not? They worship in their way...much as Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Bahai, all worship G-d in their way...is what you are indicating now? That it matters not what religion we are, but that we all worship G-d?
Now the Seventh Day, can you help me with that? On the seventh day he finished and rested...has it not gone by?
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How can you say they love Him when he clearly states not to worship the queen of heaven or worship graven images. they love Him in an innapropriate manner. it is not pure. it is not with Spirit. another thing also, there is only one way to God, and that is thru his Christ. If they are for Him, let them be. If they are not, well they will rejoice in their portion. basically, even for the ones that know the Truth, there is no title, just the Truth. just the Word. just His Will. that is all that matters. worship the One True God. Creator of heaven and earth.
as for the Seventh Day,
Psalms 95:7 For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will hear his voice,
Psalms 95:8 Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
Psalms 95:9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my work.
Psalms 95:10 Forty years long was I grieved with this generation, and said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have not known my ways: Psalms 95:11 Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into my rest.
Psalms 17:15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.
we are not, and i repeat NOT in his likeness yet. we aren't perfect like Adam before the fall, or like Christ. we are still in the 6th day.
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03-16-2007, 10:24 PM
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merely a shadow...
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Adventist Leo? Welcome.
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i am so sorry, i don't know what an adventist is. please, explain. thanks.
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03-16-2007, 10:33 PM
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22
...they love Him in an innapropriate manner....
we are not, and i repeat NOT in his likeness yet. we aren't perfect like Adam before the fall, or like Christ. we are still in the 6th day.
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So first back to clear up what you said about it not mattering what religion one was...you do care now, they have to be Christian in order to worship G-d properly and they have to be a certain brand of Christian...definitely not Catholic.
As for the 7th day info...are you indicating that this below did not occur? Therefor it is all prophecy? But from this point on we start the Geneology of Adam from which we all are descendents...
Oh yeah Dor, me acting stupid again....tell me are you following this? Maybe you can help?
Genesis 2
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.
2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested [ a] from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
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03-16-2007, 10:40 PM
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22
i am so sorry, i don't know what an adventist is. please, explain. thanks.
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A Seventh-day Adventist is a person (belonging to that denomination) who worships G-d on the seventh-day Sabbath and looks forward to his "advent" or second coming.
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03-16-2007, 10:50 PM
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merely a shadow...
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Originally Posted by wil
So first back to clear up what you said about it not mattering what religion one was...you do care now, they have to be Christian in order to worship G-d properly and they have to be a certain brand of Christian...definitely not Catholic.
As for the 7th day info...are you indicating that this below did not occur? Therefor it is all prophecy? But from this point on we start the Geneology of Adam from which we all are descendents...
Oh yeah Dor, me acting stupid again....tell me are you following this? Maybe you can help?
Genesis 2
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.
2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested [ a] from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.
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exactly. what other explanation could there be that the whole world is messed up? nothing is blessed, yet. nothing is holy in His sight, yet. i will tell you one more thing, He hasn't rested, yet either. His Spirit is constantly moving everywhere. there is no rest until we wake up in the likeness of His Son. until we are finally perfected, we will be Children of the Most High. Praise our Father in heaven, blessed be His Name, forever and ever.
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03-16-2007, 10:53 PM
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What was the question?
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22
How can you say they love Him when he clearly states not to worship the queen of heaven or worship graven images. they love Him in an innapropriate manner. it is not pure. it is not with Spirit. another thing also, there is only one way to God, and that is thru his Christ. If they are for Him, let them be. If they are not, well they will rejoice in their portion. basically, even for the ones that know the Truth, there is no title, just the Truth. just the Word. just His Will. that is all that matters. worship the One True God. Creator of heaven and earth.
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Catholics do not "worship" any queen or saint. that is a misnomer. Cahtolics rely on and believe unto Jesus. Maybe that is what Wil is trying to point out.
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Joshua
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03-16-2007, 11:00 PM
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merely a shadow...
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Catholics do not "worship" any queen or saint. that is a misnomer. Cahtolics rely on and believe unto Jesus. Maybe that is what Wil is trying to point out.
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Joshua
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i don't know if you have ever been to south texas or mexico, but around here, catholics and i mean alot of catholics pray to the image of the virgin mary, they pray to graven images, they pray to the pope as well. the images of catholicism are everywhere. its like we have been infected.
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03-16-2007, 11:39 PM
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What was the question?
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22
i don't know if you have ever been to south texas or mexico, but around here, catholics and i mean alot of catholics pray to the image of the virgin mary, they pray to graven images, they pray to the pope as well. the images of catholicism are everywhere. its like we have been infected.
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Leo, you are looking at different cultures and the influence on their "faith".
I wouldn't even recognize the goings on at some Catholic churches down south. Santa Ria, you know this in New Orleans (for example)? It is supposed to be Catholic...not from where I'm coming from.
I would suggest a whole gambit of groups not be cloistered into one opinion. They believe as they believe...ok. That is all. I'd let it go from there. There are differences of opinion, even between churches of the same cloth.
Not your cup of tea (not mine either). Maybe I'll start a Baptist-Catholic church (lol), hey it could work...
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Joshua
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03-16-2007, 11:48 PM
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Re: Greatest Religion in the world.
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Maybe I'll start a Baptist-Catholic church (lol), hey it could work...
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Joshua
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How about a Pentecostal-Quaker church.
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